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| Hungrywolf 945th Post
 
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|  "Re(2):Fatal Fury? Fatal Frame?"
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Whats fatal frame?
Is that like FATAL FURY?
Fatal Fury...now that could be a cool assed movie yo!
Yup that will be cool...but who will be in the cast, if Fatal Fury does make it to the movie?
Tobey Maguire and the "Green Goblin" from Spider-man could be Terry and Geese...then again, maybe not...
Ummm, I don't think a live-action Fatal Fury movie would be good. I mean movies based on comics books just got good, but movies based on video games still suck (except for FF:TSW, IMO) so lets not let someone mess up the good name of Fatal Fury and SNK.
I can't wait to see how messed up the Soul Calibur movie will be.
First off, there is no live action Fatal Fury in the works. Besides, I'll make that when I have made my mark in the movie industry. A good video game movie can be done, they just have to give the project to someone who will handle it seriously, much like how Marvel is doing their films now (which are turning out well). But in any case, we aren't talking about a Fatal Fury live action movie.
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| Juke Joint Jezebel 390th Post
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|  "Re(8):Fatal Fury? Fatal Frame?"
, posted Mon 27 May 08:17
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First off, there is no live action Fatal Fury in the works. Besides, I'll make that when I have made my mark in the movie industry. A good video game movie can be done, they just have to give the project to someone who will handle it seriously, much like how Marvel is doing their films now (which are turning out well). But in any case, we aren't talking about a Fatal Fury live action movie.
man, agred dude! my friends and i have been talking a lot about this a long time ago and all our talk boiled down to one thing -- movies about video games need to done by people who play video games
hehe, i know this thread was originally about Fatal Frame, but all this talk's getting me excited about a Fatal Fury movie. good luck on your film career, Hungrywolf 
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| Hungrywolf 965th Post
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| "Re(9):Fatal Fury? Fatal Frame?" , posted Mon 27 May 08:20:
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First off, there is no live action Fatal Fury in the works. Besides, I'll make that when I have made my mark in the movie industry. A good video game movie can be done, they just have to give the project to someone who will handle it seriously, much like how Marvel is doing their films now (which are turning out well). But in any case, we aren't talking about a Fatal Fury live action movie.
man, agred dude! my friends and i have been talking a lot about this a long time ago and all our talk boiled down to one thing -- movies about video games need to done by people who play video games
hehe, i know this thread was originally about Fatal Frame, but all this talk's getting me excited about a Fatal Fury movie. good luck on your film career, Hungrywolf
Thanks. It's weird to talk like that, but I'm not kidding you guys that I act and that is what I am majoring in and that is what I want to do, preferably in movies and television. Of course, that's also like saying I want to be a rock star, it will be a very incredibly hard thing to make it in, but we'll see. If I ever did get a chance to direct or something though, I would like to make a video game based movie, just so I could do it right. Oh, and FroBoy, did you know that Alyson Hannigan is older than Angelina Jolie? I just was surprised to find that out cause I thought that Angelina was older than Alyson.
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| Fro Boy11 456th Post
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| "Re(10):Fatal Fury? Fatal Frame?" , posted Mon 27 May 09:50
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First off, there is no live action Fatal Fury in the works. Besides, I'll make that when I have made my mark in the movie industry. A good video game movie can be done, they just have to give the project to someone who will handle it seriously, much like how Marvel is doing their films now (which are turning out well). But in any case, we aren't talking about a Fatal Fury live action movie.
man, agred dude! my friends and i have been talking a lot about this a long time ago and all our talk boiled down to one thing -- movies about video games need to done by people who play video games
hehe, i know this thread was originally about Fatal Frame, but all this talk's getting me excited about a Fatal Fury movie. good luck on your film career, Hungrywolf
Thanks. It's weird to talk like that, but I'm not kidding you guys that I act and that is what I am majoring in and that is what I want to do, preferably in movies and television. Of course, that's also like saying I want to be a rock star, it will be a very incredibly hard thing to make it in, but we'll see. If I ever did get a chance to direct or something though, I would like to make a video game based movie, just so I could do it right. Oh, and FroBoy, did you know that Alyson Hannigan is older than Angelina Jolie? I just was surprised to find that out cause I thought that Angelina was older than Alyson.
Well, I knew she was older than the character she plays (like EVERYBODY). I don't know how old she really is though, and I don't know how old Angelina Jolie it. I'm guessing that Alyson is around 25 though and Angelina is about 23.
I hope you do get to direct and write movies and stuff. If not a movie, a TV series of Fatal Fury wouldn't be too bad. Or a TV movie, then it could get really popular then you would have to do a big motion picture movie thing.
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| Hungrywolf 965th Post
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| "Re(2):Re(10):Fatal Fury? Fatal Frame?" , posted Mon 27 May 10:18
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First off, there is no live action Fatal Fury in the works. Besides, I'll make that when I have made my mark in the movie industry. A good video game movie can be done, they just have to give the project to someone who will handle it seriously, much like how Marvel is doing their films now (which are turning out well). But in any case, we aren't talking about a Fatal Fury live action movie.
man, agred dude! my friends and i have been talking a lot about this a long time ago and all our talk boiled down to one thing -- movies about video games need to done by people who play video games
hehe, i know this thread was originally about Fatal Frame, but all this talk's getting me excited about a Fatal Fury movie. good luck on your film career, Hungrywolf
Thanks. It's weird to talk like that, but I'm not kidding you guys that I act and that is what I am majoring in and that is what I want to do, preferably in movies and television. Of course, that's also like saying I want to be a rock star, it will be a very incredibly hard thing to make it in, but we'll see. If I ever did get a chance to direct or something though, I would like to make a video game based movie, just so I could do it right. Oh, and FroBoy, did you know that Alyson Hannigan is older than Angelina Jolie? I just was surprised to find that out cause I thought that Angelina was older than Alyson.
Well, I knew she was older than the character she plays (like EVERYBODY). I don't know how old she really is though, and I don't know how old Angelina Jolie it. I'm guessing that Alyson is around 25 though and Angelina is about 23.
I hope you do get to direct and write movies and stuff. If not a movie, a TV series of Fatal Fury wouldn't be too bad. Or a TV movie, then it could get really popular then you would have to do a big motion picture movie thing.
I'd definately hire some fans to help make sure I don't mess anything up. Alyson is 28 years old. Angelina is 26. Actually, Angelina will be 27 in June, so they are closer in age than I thought, but still, I guess because of the roles they have in different stuff I thought Angelina was at least 4 years older and that Alyson was a lot younger. I think Alyson is older than the guy that plays Xander.
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| TheBeast 411th Post
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| "Making movies..." , posted Mon 27 May 20:24
Glad to know that there is someone like Hungrywolf who is serious about film and TV production. Well, I also have quite an interest in this area too, but unfortunately I did not major in any film studies course, due to some personal reasons.
Anyway, back to the topic. From what I see Fatal Frame and Fatal Fury do not have the appeal and cut to be a blockbuster movie. There are just too many horror movies in the market, and with movies like "Scream" have made horror movies lose its originality. Fatal Fury do not have an appealing storyline either (Terry avenging his Father's death - anything else?) and without a good story plot it is basically hopeless. Perhaps TV serial, yes, but not movies I am sure.
If I have the capital and ability to make a production now, I will say Samurial Shodown will be the top of my list. Not to say that it has an appealing storyline, but SS will have a lot of room to develop on a plot than FF, since it is based in ancient Japan. Plus, I think SS characters are richer in terms of characters too.
Well, that is just my thoughts and opinions on this topic...
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| Hungrywolf 973th Post
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| "Re(1):Making movies..." , posted Mon 27 May 21:07
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Glad to know that there is someone like Hungrywolf who is serious about film and TV production. Well, I also have quite an interest in this area too, but unfortunately I did not major in any film studies course, due to some personal reasons.
Anyway, back to the topic. From what I see Fatal Frame and Fatal Fury do not have the appeal and cut to be a blockbuster movie. There are just too many horror movies in the market, and with movies like "Scream" have made horror movies lose its originality. Fatal Fury do not have an appealing storyline either (Terry avenging his Father's death - anything else?) and without a good story plot it is basically hopeless. Perhaps TV serial, yes, but not movies I am sure.
If I have the capital and ability to make a production now, I will say Samurial Shodown will be the top of my list. Not to say that it has an appealing storyline, but SS will have a lot of room to develop on a plot than FF, since it is based in ancient Japan. Plus, I think SS characters are richer in terms of characters too.
Well, that is just my thoughts and opinions on this topic...
Well, I would add some things that haven't been seen, like show Andy growing up training in Japan and Mai falling hard for him at an early age. Also I'd show whatever the heck Terry did for 10 years...I'd have to figure out some ideas. Yeah, it seems unoriginal, but I also wouldn't sell it as a videogame based movie. I'd call it Legend of the Hungry Wolf (translation of Garou Densetsu) or maybe even Fatal Fury, since they probably wouldn't figure out it was a videogame based movie, what with how SNK isn't big in the US (which I regret so much). Of course, I have ideas to show cameos of AoF characters and the like (even got an idea to give some KoF cameos in Japan scenes, like Kyo, Iori, Athena....), and Mai and Mary and Kim would appear in the first movie, though wouldn't be involved in any of the tournament, I have my little ideas. Plus Geese wouldn't die at the end of course (cause he's still alive). Kinda like Darth Vader escaping at the end of A New Hope. Anyway, yeah, sure the story could be boring, but it wouldn't have to be. Maybe if I get bored I'll actually pen a script. Of course, in all seriousness, I'm still in college right now. The chance that I'd even get the rights to make a Fatal Fury movie are slim, I'm just saying I think I could make a good one, despite how "unappealing" the storyline might be...I mean, I would get into the story of the scrolls and Geese's involvement with them in the first movie, and so it would be more than "kid goes to get revenge for Father's death". It's all a pipe dream. 
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| Juke Joint Jezebel 393th Post
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|  "Re(2):Making movies..."
, posted Mon 27 May 23:19
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Plus Geese wouldn't die at the end of course (cause he's still alive). Kinda like Darth Vader escaping at the end of A New Hope.
man good idea. if you start it, don't try to tie it all up in one movie. reminds me of a lot of "ok" animes that could've been great if they didn't rush everything just to make it an OVA (ehh, all i can think of right now is Ghost in the Shell and Grappler Baki. there's dozens of others, i assure you). wow i can just imagine how the Geese tower would look .. how tall and magnificent it'd be in the city night, and the ancient oriental artifacts he'd have on the temple-like top floor. or even how devastating raging storm would look with the technology we've got today
also, with the sequel to Mark of the Wolves coming, it could give you ideas to sequels to the movie series
as for the story being unappealing, i seriously beg to differ. in my opinion, the Fatal Fury storyline was the best storyline from SNK. and it's a lot more than Terry avenging his father's death. let's see ... deaths that somewhat had to do with Terry ... Geese killed Jeff Bogard (Terry's guardian. Terry saw him as a father figure) and Lily McGuire (at the end of kof92, Geese killed his adopted daughter, Terry's girlfriend). his lackies killed Butch (Blue Mary's fiance) and Blue Mary's father (they were both bounty hunters). i think once Mary and Terry met, he learned about those deaths sooner or later
what i liked the most about the Fatal Fury storyline is that everyone that's tough has worked hard to get there. Andy had to train extremely hard so he wouldn't always be in the shadow of his famous and naturally stronger brother. Geese used to be weak, even weaker than Krauser. he killed Jeff Bogard so that Tung Fu Ru would teach him the Hakkyokuseiken art. he then eventually killed Tung Fu Ru and swiped the scroll for himself. Geese created his own move -- the deadly rave from Ryo's Ryuuko Ranbu (his asskicking move). i dunno, i could go on and on about Geese and everything he's done and stolen and killed .. same goes with everyone else. they all have their indepth stories in Fatal Fury
i'd have liked Art of Fighting storyline but SNK made it way too short. i'd also have liked the King of Fighters storyline but the whole Orochi thing was just unappealing to me (also annoyed the hell out of me that it wasn't really a tournament and someone was always there to mess it up at the end, or there was a huge explosion and the tournament was cancelled, or Kyo or Iori or 'K was able to barely defeat some superhard opponent)
ehhh, am i still typing? ok i'll stop -_-
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| Burning Ranger
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| "Fatal Fury and why SF Sucked..." , posted Tue 28 May 05:59
Any video game can be turned into a decent movie. Look at Resident Evil, which was IMO very well made and faithful to the established storyline as a prequel to the games... as far as Capcom is concerned, the movie IS part of the game's storyline. But that isnt the issue here...
There are a lot of reasons that Street Fighter sucked. First of all it was a movie based entirely on hype in the days when Street Fighter was the hottest thing in arcades and game consoles. And because of this hype, they got Van Damme. But none of this seems to be as important compared to how the screenwriters, producers, and directors screwed up the image of SF. Street Fighter was a predominantly Japanese story, with a Japanese hero with a sprinkling of international characters in the mix. But then, Street Fighter was going to be made by americans. What do you do then? Change the hero to an American (Guile) and make the movie look like a comic book.
Now, Fatal Fury, and theoretically any video game, can be made into a successful movie. There are just things you have to consider. First, fans can't expect the movie to be 100% true to the source material. Something has to give, because if everything was 100% true, then in many cases, scenarios would seem ridiculous. Second, screenwriters, producers and directors will exercise some creative license with the story. Paul Anderson did a great job with Resident Evil and Mortal Kombat in this respect. It wasn't 100% verbatim material in the games, but it was close enough. Who cares if Jill or Wesker weren't in the RE movie? Hey couldn't be, because the movie was a prequel. But I guess the point I am making is that if the movie has the same overall theme of the game, then there shouldn't be a problem at all. Fanboys, if you don't like it, tough!
As for Fatal Fury, I was going to pen a fan-script about it, but I may never have time. But in any case, my vision of Fatal Fury would boil down to a singular point: Terry Vs Geese, essentially the same story as FF1. There would be the addition of other characters: Andy and Joe, Mai, and Mary "Blue" Ryan (Yes, even the names have to be slightly modified to make sense).
And all of you guys... RAY PARK (aka Darth Maul) should be Billy Kane.
Ed aka Burning Ranger
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| Hungrywolf 977th Post
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| "Re(1):Fatal Fury and why SF Sucked..." , posted Tue 28 May 08:39
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Any video game can be turned into a decent movie. Look at Resident Evil, which was IMO very well made and faithful to the established storyline as a prequel to the games... as far as Capcom is concerned, the movie IS part of the game's storyline. But that isnt the issue here...
There are a lot of reasons that Street Fighter sucked. First of all it was a movie based entirely on hype in the days when Street Fighter was the hottest thing in arcades and game consoles. And because of this hype, they got Van Damme. But none of this seems to be as important compared to how the screenwriters, producers, and directors screwed up the image of SF. Street Fighter was a predominantly Japanese story, with a Japanese hero with a sprinkling of international characters in the mix. But then, Street Fighter was going to be made by americans. What do you do then? Change the hero to an American (Guile) and make the movie look like a comic book.
Now, Fatal Fury, and theoretically any video game, can be made into a successful movie. There are just things you have to consider. First, fans can't expect the movie to be 100% true to the source material. Something has to give, because if everything was 100% true, then in many cases, scenarios would seem ridiculous. Second, screenwriters, producers and directors will exercise some creative license with the story. Paul Anderson did a great job with Resident Evil and Mortal Kombat in this respect. It wasn't 100% verbatim material in the games, but it was close enough. Who cares if Jill or Wesker weren't in the RE movie? Hey couldn't be, because the movie was a prequel. But I guess the point I am making is that if the movie has the same overall theme of the game, then there shouldn't be a problem at all. Fanboys, if you don't like it, tough!
As for Fatal Fury, I was going to pen a fan-script about it, but I may never have time. But in any case, my vision of Fatal Fury would boil down to a singular point: Terry Vs Geese, essentially the same story as FF1. There would be the addition of other characters: Andy and Joe, Mai, and Mary "Blue" Ryan (Yes, even the names have to be slightly modified to make sense).
And all of you guys... RAY PARK (aka Darth Maul) should be Billy Kane.
JJJ, Lily McGuire? I am pretty sure she was never a real character, and Terry never learned the Hakwhatever from Master Tung....a lot of that stuff was made up for the OVAs. I wouldn't have that made up stuff from the OVAs in my movie. I would have to make changes for it to be a successful movie with non fans, but I wouldn't use the same changes that Osami Obari used. I thought the addition of Lily wasn't good because Terry already had a reason to go after Geese, he didn't need another one. Still the OVAs were good, the second one is my favorite, even moreso than the anime movie.
Burning Ranger, you are right about why the SF movie sucked, it was changed to have Guile as the main hero, the true heros, Ken and Ryu, were turned into arms dealers? Characters were switched from the side they were really on (Zangeif, Balrog/M. Bison, etc). In any case, names wouldn't have to be changed to make sense in a Fatal Fury movie. I mean, there is a reason Mary Ryan has the nickname Blue Mary, and it makes sense. I could never call her Mary "Blue" Ryan....that would drive me insane. I would explain her nickname in all of the backstory I would have in the movie that would take place. In fact it might even be explained in a flashback and not when I'd be doing all the backstory in the beginning. And I for one think that James Marsters would be a better Billy. For one, I know he can do the accent. For two, I haven't truly seen Ray Park act yet, and I know that James can. Yes, Ray Park is good with the action, still, that doesn't make him Billy. Can he do the accent, can he act? I know that James Marsters can act, and also has experience with action stuff, and Billy (especially FF1 Billy, who doesn't do all too much when you fight him) wouldn't need to have the stunt work of Ray Park to carry him. Have you seen the Buffy ep. where Spike is in the 80's fighting a black slayer on the subway? He looks kinda like Billy Idol. It's funny...but that is when I first thought of how good of a Billy Kane he would make. Anyway, that is just my opinion of your idea. The movie would def. boil down to Terry vs. Geese for the end, it couldn't be any other way. You are dead on about why the SF movie sucked too.
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| TheBeast 414th Post
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| "Why SS may make the cut." , posted Tue 28 May 09:13
Wow, this topic is getting very interesting indeed. Glad to be part of the interaction.
I agree that the sub-plots of Fatal Fury are great (especially Geese killing Jeff, Geese becoming stronger and defeated his half-brother Krauser) which helped to build up the main plot of Terry Vs. Geese, but the sub-plots may be too complicating and involved too many characters. It will be hard to come up with a solid storyline linking everything AND ALSO SOUND APPEALING for a movie. Like I said, it should be a great TV serial given a great production team, but definitely not the looks for a movie.
I also agree that there are a few great video game to movie like Resident Evil, but for Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Tomb Raider etc, they just do not make the cut. I am still waiting for BioHazard though, and Fatal Frame? It just follows the bandwagon of appealing horror themes in the movie market.
Samurial Shodown is still number one in my opinion because it is in Ancient Japan, which gives a mysterious and martial arts background. There is not much story plots being developed in the game, so I can safely develop a new storyline linking the various characters (like a treasure hunt involving many martial arts experts to hunt down, or search for a scared martial arts scroll etc). There are so many storylines that could be borrowed from Chinese Martial Arts novels, such as the one "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" is based on. Throw in the spectacular sword fighting scenes and you got the instant appeal.
Well, everyone is entitled to their own fantasties. Mine stand as such.
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| Juan 1996th Post
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| "Re(1):Why SS may make the cut." , posted Tue 28 May 09:19
Let not forget the House of the Dead movie. Secret agents fighting zombies? that is so like 90's and stuff! lets have TEENAGE RAVE DANCING ZOMBIE FIGHTERS!
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Wow, this topic is getting very interesting indeed. Glad to be part of the interaction.
I agree that the sub-plots of Fatal Fury are great (especially Geese killing Jeff, Geese becoming stronger and defeated his half-brother Krauser) which helped to build up the main plot of Terry Vs. Geese, but the sub-plots may be too complicating and involved too many characters. It will be hard to come up with a solid storyline linking everything AND ALSO SOUND APPEALING for a movie. Like I said, it should be a great TV serial given a great production team, but definitely not the looks for a movie.
I also agree that there are a few great video game to movie like Resident Evil, but for Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Tomb Raider etc, they just do not make the cut. I am still waiting for BioHazard though, and Fatal Frame? It just follows the bandwagon of appealing horror themes in the movie market.
Samurial Shodown is still number one in my opinion because it is in Ancient Japan, which gives a mysterious and martial arts background. There is not much story plots being developed in the game, so I can safely develop a new storyline linking the various characters (like a treasure hunt involving many martial arts experts to hunt down, or search for a scared martial arts scroll etc). There are so many storylines that could be borrowed from Chinese Martial Arts novels, such as the one "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" is based on. Throw in the spectacular sword fighting scenes and you got the instant appeal.
Well, everyone is entitled to their own fantasties. Mine stand as such.
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| Burning Ranger
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| "Re(2):Fatal Fury and why SF Sucked..." , posted Tue 28 May 09:20
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In any case, names wouldn't have to be changed to make sense in a Fatal Fury movie. I mean, there is a reason Mary Ryan has the nickname Blue Mary, and it makes sense. I could never call her Mary "Blue" Ryan.
True. Maybe I didn't be specific on how it could work. Mary is an investigator/cop right? Surely her boss, the police chief, wouldn't call her "Blue Mary," instead it would be "Mary" or "Ryan." Her co-workers, other cops, could call her "Blue" or "Blue Mary" because its her nickname. When (if) Terry and Mary meet in the film, I am sure Mary wouldn't introduce herself as "Blue Mary" but rather Mary. Oh yes.. in my movie version, there would be a developing relationship between Terry and Mary as Terry finds he has been a loner for too long.
There would be other things that would need to be changed via artistic license. There are little things, but some people will make a big deal about it. For example, in the games, it is never specified where Terry works, or even if he has a job at all. In my treatment, Terry would work at a rail yard (based on Terry's FF2 stage which takes place on a train). We know from the games that he likes to play basketball with kids, so in my version, he plays basketball with kids at a youth center. Also, I had to twist the facts around a bit. In my version, Terry doesn't know that Geese was the man that killed his father until he meets him, because (like in Wild Ambition) Terry witnesses his fathers death at the hands of Geese, but he doesn't know its Geese Howard. And in my version, Geese is a well known philanthropist and socialite while at the same time, is ruthlessly evil and runs the crime syndicate. But in the end, the story would boil down to Terry getting revenge.
Oh yes... maybe Willem Dafoe would make a cool Geese, but IMHO, BRUCE CAMPBELL IS GEESE HOWARD!
Ed aka Burning Ranger
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| Hungrywolf 980th Post
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| "Re(3):Fatal Fury and why SF Sucked..." , posted Tue 28 May 12:21
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In any case, names wouldn't have to be changed to make sense in a Fatal Fury movie. I mean, there is a reason Mary Ryan has the nickname Blue Mary, and it makes sense. I could never call her Mary "Blue" Ryan.
True. Maybe I didn't be specific on how it could work. Mary is an investigator/cop right? Surely her boss, the police chief, wouldn't call her "Blue Mary," instead it would be "Mary" or "Ryan." Her co-workers, other cops, could call her "Blue" or "Blue Mary" because its her nickname. When (if) Terry and Mary meet in the film, I am sure Mary wouldn't introduce herself as "Blue Mary" but rather Mary. Oh yes.. in my movie version, there would be a developing relationship between Terry and Mary as Terry finds he has been a loner for too long.
There would be other things that would need to be changed via artistic license. There are little things, but some people will make a big deal about it. For example, in the games, it is never specified where Terry works, or even if he has a job at all. In my treatment, Terry would work at a rail yard (based on Terry's FF2 stage which takes place on a train). We know from the games that he likes to play basketball with kids, so in my version, he plays basketball with kids at a youth center. Also, I had to twist the facts around a bit. In my version, Terry doesn't know that Geese was the man that killed his father until he meets him, because (like in Wild Ambition) Terry witnesses his fathers death at the hands of Geese, but he doesn't know its Geese Howard. And in my version, Geese is a well known philanthropist and socialite while at the same time, is ruthlessly evil and runs the crime syndicate. But in the end, the story would boil down to Terry getting revenge.
Oh yes... maybe Willem Dafoe would make a cool Geese, but IMHO, BRUCE CAMPBELL IS GEESE HOWARD!
I love Bruce Campbell, I'm like a huge fan, but don't think he'd be a good Geese....(speaking of which, I'd like to see more Brisco County, Jr., maybe a tv movie or something. I love that show). Anyway, in my story, Mary would get her nickname the same way she got it, Butch would name a cocktail that. It's not that complicated. She wouldn't go around calling herself that, but that'd be her nick. I don't really know how I would build up where Terry gets money from....I would assume he wouldn't have much material possessions and would make money in tournaments, but how realistic it would be that he could live off of tournament money is unsure to me. But he would know it was Geese, and he would be preparing for him. I would have him play some basketball at some point in the movie maybe, but I don't know if I'd do a youth center type thing...I think he would have spent a lot of time fighting and preparing to fight against Geese. And I swear, Ukee would be in my Fatal Fury movie, and we all know that monkeys make things 50% better than they are without them.
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| Juan 1997th Post
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| "Re(4):Fatal Fury and why SF Sucked..." , posted Tue 28 May 12:32
The guy that does Al Bundy would make a perfect Geese Howard (see pictures of Geese on KOF Kyo and the old fatal fury special commercials.)
hehehe.
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In any case, names wouldn't have to be changed to make sense in a Fatal Fury movie. I mean, there is a reason Mary Ryan has the nickname Blue Mary, and it makes sense. I could never call her Mary "Blue" Ryan.
True. Maybe I didn't be specific on how it could work. Mary is an investigator/cop right? Surely her boss, the police chief, wouldn't call her "Blue Mary," instead it would be "Mary" or "Ryan." Her co-workers, other cops, could call her "Blue" or "Blue Mary" because its her nickname. When (if) Terry and Mary meet in the film, I am sure Mary wouldn't introduce herself as "Blue Mary" but rather Mary. Oh yes.. in my movie version, there would be a developing relationship between Terry and Mary as Terry finds he has been a loner for too long.
There would be other things that would need to be changed via artistic license. There are little things, but some people will make a big deal about it. For example, in the games, it is never specified where Terry works, or even if he has a job at all. In my treatment, Terry would work at a rail yard (based on Terry's FF2 stage which takes place on a train). We know from the games that he likes to play basketball with kids, so in my version, he plays basketball with kids at a youth center. Also, I had to twist the facts around a bit. In my version, Terry doesn't know that Geese was the man that killed his father until he meets him, because (like in Wild Ambition) Terry witnesses his fathers death at the hands of Geese, but he doesn't know its Geese Howard. And in my version, Geese is a well known philanthropist and socialite while at the same time, is ruthlessly evil and runs the crime syndicate. But in the end, the story would boil down to Terry getting revenge.
Oh yes... maybe Willem Dafoe would make a cool Geese, but IMHO, BRUCE CAMPBELL IS GEESE HOWARD!
I love Bruce Campbell, I'm like a huge fan, but don't think he'd be a good Geese....(speaking of which, I'd like to see more Brisco County, Jr., maybe a tv movie or something. I love that show). Anyway, in my story, Mary would get her nickname the same way she got it, Butch would name a cocktail that. It's not that complicated. She wouldn't go around calling herself that, but that'd be her nick. I don't really know how I would build up where Terry gets money from....I would assume he wouldn't have much material possessions and would make money in tournaments, but how realistic it would be that he could live off of tournament money is unsure to me. But he would know it was Geese, and he would be preparing for him. I would have him play some basketball at some point in the movie maybe, but I don't know if I'd do a youth center type thing...I think he would have spent a lot of time fighting and preparing to fight against Geese. And I swear, Ukee would be in my Fatal Fury movie, and we all know that monkeys make things 50% better than they are without them.
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| Juke Joint Jezebel 396th Post
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| "Re(5):Fatal Fury and why SF Sucked..." , posted Tue 28 May 19:00
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JJJ, Lily McGuire? I am pretty sure she was never a real character, and Terry never learned the Hakwhatever from Master Tung....a lot of that stuff was made up for the OVAs. I wouldn't have that made up stuff from the OVAs in my movie. I would have to make changes for it to be a successful movie with non fans, but I wouldn't use the same changes that Osami Obari used. I thought the addition of Lily wasn't good because Terry already had a reason to go after Geese, he didn't need another one. Still the OVAs were good, the second one is my favorite, even moreso than the anime movie.
DOHH that was from the OVA? ehh i didn't see the OVA (well, i did a long time ago but it was before i had any interest in Fatal Fury so i didn't pay too much attention to the storyline or anything) nor did i play any Fatal Fury that was on the NeoGeo (seeing as how it's hard to get my hands on something like that in the U.S.) so a lot of my info was based on stuff i've looked up in the past. my brain absorbs too much o_O even mixed information
but anyways, as for Burning Ranger's suggestion of Terry working at a train yard .... well ... i think Terry's just a bum, hehe, living off of money won from tournaments, just training and fighting all the time. poor guy doesn't even get new clothes until Mark of the Wolves
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| Burning Ranger
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| "Re(4):Fatal Fury and why SF Sucked..." , posted Tue 28 May 20:28
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I love Bruce Campbell, I'm like a huge fan, but don't think he'd be a good Geese....(speaking of which, I'd like to see more Brisco County, Jr., maybe a tv movie or something. I love that show). Anyway, in my story, Mary would get her nickname the same way she got it, Butch would name a cocktail that. It's not that complicated. She wouldn't go around calling herself that, but that'd be her nick. I don't really know how I would build up where Terry gets money from....I would assume he wouldn't have much material possessions and would make money in tournaments, but how realistic it would be that he could live off of tournament money is unsure to me. But he would know it was Geese, and he would be preparing for him. I would have him play some basketball at some point in the movie maybe, but I don't know if I'd do a youth center type thing...I think he would have spent a lot of time fighting and preparing to fight against Geese. And I swear, Ukee would be in my Fatal Fury movie, and we all know that monkeys make things 50% better than they are without them.
I tried to envision a plot. The element of surprise would be that Terry discovers that the man running the tournament, and a well known member of society, is in fact the man who killed his father. I mean, Terry saw Young Geese, but can't quite make the connection that it is the same man until the end. I dunno, its something to make a story from. There was also a side story... ah.. I wonder if I have the draft around. Hell, that draft wasnt even in screenplay format.
Ed aka Burning Ranger
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| TheBeast 416th Post
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| "Inspiration" , posted Tue 28 May 21:26
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I love Bruce Campbell, I'm like a huge fan, but don't think he'd be a good Geese....(speaking of which, I'd like to see more Brisco County, Jr., maybe a tv movie or something. I love that show). Anyway, in my story, Mary would get her nickname the same way she got it, Butch would name a cocktail that. It's not that complicated. She wouldn't go around calling herself that, but that'd be her nick. I don't really know how I would build up where Terry gets money from....I would assume he wouldn't have much material possessions and would make money in tournaments, but how realistic it would be that he could live off of tournament money is unsure to me. But he would know it was Geese, and he would be preparing for him. I would have him play some basketball at some point in the movie maybe, but I don't know if I'd do a youth center type thing...I think he would have spent a lot of time fighting and preparing to fight against Geese. And I swear, Ukee would be in my Fatal Fury movie, and we all know that monkeys make things 50% better than they are without them.
I tried to envision a plot. The element of surprise would be that Terry discovers that the man running the tournament, and a well known member of society, is in fact the man who killed his father. I mean, Terry saw Young Geese, but can't quite make the connection that it is the same man until the end. I dunno, its something to make a story from. There was also a side story... ah.. I wonder if I have the draft around. Hell, that draft wasnt even in screenplay format.
Hmmmmm your story inspred me...how about this for a plot?
Terry could only recall that the man who killed Jeff had long hair and wore a suit (young Geese). Years later he entered the "King of Fighters tournament" (the name FF1 tournament was based on)and was alarmed to find someone similar to Jeff's killer. He suspected that he was the killer's son due to the resemblance. Fighting with revenge and hatred, he managed to spar with the guy at the finals - only to find out that it was his own brother Andy Bogard! Apparently, the 2 brothers were separated; Andy went to learn arts from Mai's grandfather at a young age...Later they discovered that it was a plot by Geese, the organiser of the tournament, who knew they were brothers all along, and made use of this tournament to make them kill each other off. Terry and Andy combined forces to fight Geese at the end, and Geese fell off Geese Tower....
Mmmmmmmmmmm.........
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| Hungrywolf 991th Post
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| "Re(1):Inspiration" , posted Tue 28 May 22:35
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I love Bruce Campbell, I'm like a huge fan, but don't think he'd be a good Geese....(speaking of which, I'd like to see more Brisco County, Jr., maybe a tv movie or something. I love that show). Anyway, in my story, Mary would get her nickname the same way she got it, Butch would name a cocktail that. It's not that complicated. She wouldn't go around calling herself that, but that'd be her nick. I don't really know how I would build up where Terry gets money from....I would assume he wouldn't have much material possessions and would make money in tournaments, but how realistic it would be that he could live off of tournament money is unsure to me. But he would know it was Geese, and he would be preparing for him. I would have him play some basketball at some point in the movie maybe, but I don't know if I'd do a youth center type thing...I think he would have spent a lot of time fighting and preparing to fight against Geese. And I swear, Ukee would be in my Fatal Fury movie, and we all know that monkeys make things 50% better than they are without them.
I tried to envision a plot. The element of surprise would be that Terry discovers that the man running the tournament, and a well known member of society, is in fact the man who killed his father. I mean, Terry saw Young Geese, but can't quite make the connection that it is the same man until the end. I dunno, its something to make a story from. There was also a side story... ah.. I wonder if I have the draft around. Hell, that draft wasnt even in screenplay format.
Hmmmmm your story inspred me...how about this for a plot?
Terry could only recall that the man who killed Jeff had long hair and wore a suit (young Geese). Years later he entered the "King of Fighters tournament" (the name FF1 tournament was based on)and was alarmed to find someone similar to Jeff's killer. He suspected that he was the killer's son due to the resemblance. Fighting with revenge and hatred, he managed to spar with the guy at the finals - only to find out that it was his own brother Andy Bogard! Apparently, the 2 brothers were separated; Andy went to learn arts from Mai's grandfather at a young age...Later they discovered that it was a plot by Geese, the organiser of the tournament, who knew they were brothers all along, and made use of this tournament to make them kill each other off. Terry and Andy combined forces to fight Geese at the end, and Geese fell off Geese Tower....
Mmmmmmmmmmm.........
Interesting twist, but I still prefer him and his brother to know each other, like the FF OVA.
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| Burning Ranger
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| "Re(1):Inspiration" , posted Wed 29 May 05:51
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Hmmmmm your story inspred me...how about this for a plot?
Terry could only recall that the man who killed Jeff had long hair and wore a suit (young Geese). Years later he entered the "King of Fighters tournament" (the name FF1 tournament was based on)and was alarmed to find someone similar to Jeff's killer. He suspected that he was the killer's son due to the resemblance. Fighting with revenge and hatred, he managed to spar with the guy at the finals - only to find out that it was his own brother Andy Bogard! Apparently, the 2 brothers were separated; Andy went to learn arts from Mai's grandfather at a young age...Later they discovered that it was a plot by Geese, the organiser of the tournament, who knew they were brothers all along, and made use of this tournament to make them kill each other off. Terry and Andy combined forces to fight Geese at the end, and Geese fell off Geese Tower....
Mmmmmmmmmmm.........
That is exactly how I wanted Terry to think. However, Terry and Andy do know each other and have been keeping in touch. On the day of the tournament, Andy just happens to be in Southtown with his new sparring buddy Joe Higashi. Also, Mai is stalking Andy, because obviously, she likes him. The story would also involve Mary, as she is investigating the syndicate and the man who killed her partner. In all cases, all roads lead to Geese.
Ed aka Burning Ranger
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| Burning Ranger
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| "Creativity and silliness" , posted Thu 30 May 08:59
One thing that really bugged me was the way Street Fighter looked so cartoonish. From Ryu's goofy fireball, and Ken's wuss shoryuken to Guile's wire-fu Flash Kick and weak Sonic Boom, it all looked ridiculous. I guess all the FX money went into the sets for that one. Mortal Kombat also suffered these problems, but at least I thought it looked cooler in MK. MK also had its share of realistic fight scenes (with very little or no special effects), like Liu Kang's first fight scene and Sonya Vs Kano.
Why do I mention this? Because I was thinking about Fatal Fury, and I wondered what approach would be adequate to take? Should it be full of Special effects or real fight scenes? I would opt for real fight scenes myself...but clearly some characters moves don't need elaborate Special effects to be pulled off. Joe wouldn't need to throw Hurricane-Uppers or have flaming tiger kicks to look cool. In fact, the Tiger Kicks dont need to have flames at all (like in KOF). Andy can do ninijitsu without fireballs. I guess the only part in the movie where special effects would be critical would be the final fight between Geese and Terry. In my vision, you wouldn't see a power wave, or a rising tackle. You might see a Crack Shoot. But at the end, Terry would do a kind of Burning Knuckle to finish off Geese and knock him off Geese tower...
I'm babbling, aren't I?
Ed aka Burning Ranger
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| Hungrywolf 1007th Post
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| "Re(1):Creativity and silliness" , posted Thu 30 May 09:03
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One thing that really bugged me was the way Street Fighter looked so cartoonish. From Ryu's goofy fireball, and Ken's wuss shoryuken to Guile's wire-fu Flash Kick and weak Sonic Boom, it all looked ridiculous. I guess all the FX money went into the sets for that one. Mortal Kombat also suffered these problems, but at least I thought it looked cooler in MK. MK also had its share of realistic fight scenes (with very little or no special effects), like Liu Kang's first fight scene and Sonya Vs Kano.
Why do I mention this? Because I was thinking about Fatal Fury, and I wondered what approach would be adequate to take? Should it be full of Special effects or real fight scenes? I would opt for real fight scenes myself...but clearly some characters moves don't need elaborate Special effects to be pulled off. Joe wouldn't need to throw Hurricane-Uppers or have flaming tiger kicks to look cool. In fact, the Tiger Kicks dont need to have flames at all (like in KOF). Andy can do ninijitsu without fireballs. I guess the only part in the movie where special effects would be critical would be the final fight between Geese and Terry. In my vision, you wouldn't see a power wave, or a rising tackle. You might see a Crack Shoot. But at the end, Terry would do a kind of Burning Knuckle to finish off Geese and knock him off Geese tower...
I'm babbling, aren't I?
I would so want to see a rising tackle of sorts, a power geyser, and a raging storm. Of course, in FF1 there was no power geyser or raging storm yet. I'd definately use a combo of both special effects (done correctly though) and real fighting. Also, I didn't know there was a shoryuken and a hadoken used in the SF movie? I don't remember a sonic boom either, only the flash kick...
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| Burning Ranger
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| "Re(2):Creativity and silliness" , posted Thu 30 May 11:03
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I would so want to see a rising tackle of sorts, a power geyser, and a raging storm. Of course, in FF1 there was no power geyser or raging storm yet. I'd definately use a combo of both special effects (done correctly though) and real fighting. Also, I didn't know there was a shoryuken and a hadoken used in the SF movie? I don't remember a sonic boom either, only the flash kick...
In the last scenes of Street Fighter, Ken and Ryu are fighting Vega and Sagat in the Shadaloo locker room. Ryu is fighting Vega and he throws the hadoken very close range, so you see a brief flash of blue light. Ken Shoryuken's Sagat in the chest, KO'ing him. At the end of the movie, you can see Sagat without his shirt, complete with the scar Ken gave him with the shoryuken. Guile didn't do the exact Sonic Boom in the game. He swung his arms just like the sonic boom motion and he hit Bison on the sides of his head with his fists. I guess that is the movie version of the sonic boom.. eh...
Back to Fatal Fury... I dont know how a rising tackle can be simulated in real life. Unless it is some kind of risign kick Terry does as he gets up from a knockdown, I really dont know how it can be done. I am not so sure how a powerwave can be done though...
Ed aka Burning Ranger
- "If you can't beat them arrange to have them beaten." -George Carlin
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| TheBeast 425th Post
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| "Re(3):Creativity and silliness" , posted Thu 30 May 21:51
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I would so want to see a rising tackle of sorts, a power geyser, and a raging storm. Of course, in FF1 there was no power geyser or raging storm yet. I'd definately use a combo of both special effects (done correctly though) and real fighting. Also, I didn't know there was a shoryuken and a hadoken used in the SF movie? I don't remember a sonic boom either, only the flash kick...
In the last scenes of Street Fighter, Ken and Ryu are fighting Vega and Sagat in the Shadaloo locker room. Ryu is fighting Vega and he throws the hadoken very close range, so you see a brief flash of blue light. Ken Shoryuken's Sagat in the chest, KO'ing him. At the end of the movie, you can see Sagat without his shirt, complete with the scar Ken gave him with the shoryuken. Guile didn't do the exact Sonic Boom in the game. He swung his arms just like the sonic boom motion and he hit Bison on the sides of his head with his fists. I guess that is the movie version of the sonic boom.. eh...
Back to Fatal Fury... I dont know how a rising tackle can be simulated in real life. Unless it is some kind of risign kick Terry does as he gets up from a knockdown, I really dont know how it can be done. I am not so sure how a powerwave can be done though...
Yeah doing a real Rising Tackle would defy the laws of gravity!
Power Wave, Power Geyser, Reppuken and Raging storm can be done by doing a long camera shot (from a distance) of the character doing the motions, creating explosions around him, and adding special effects later on.
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