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Dr Orochi

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"MegaMan X7" , posted Thu 23 May 22:57

Sad news for MegaFans.... or at least this one. -_-.... Mega Man X7 is coming. But in 3D. Bleh...

Link Here

See for yourself. 3/23 news.

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Shin ATproof

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"Re(1):MegaMan X7" , posted Thu 23 May 23:00

quote:
Sad news for MegaFans.... or at least this one. -_-.... Mega Man X7 is coming. But in 3D. Bleh...

Link Here

See for yourself. 3/23 news.

It looks "OK" from what I can tell...let's hope to god that Capcom makes it at least look like a 2D game and play a bit like a 2D game...I DON'T LIKE THE ROCKMAN DASH GAMES!

Fro Boy11

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"Re(1):MegaMan X7" , posted Thu 23 May 23:01

quote:
Sad news for MegaFans.... or at least this one. -_-.... Mega Man X7 is coming. But in 3D. Bleh...

Link Here

See for yourself. 3/23 news.

Megaman + Cel-Shading = Cool

They really are running this cel-shading thing into the ground fast. I'm getting sick of it.

LET'S ALL HOPE THAT STREET FIGHTER 4 IS NOT CEL-SHADED!

Shin ATproof

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"Re(2):MegaMan X7" , posted Thu 23 May 23:02

quote:
Sad news for MegaFans.... or at least this one. -_-.... Mega Man X7 is coming. But in 3D. Bleh...

Link Here

See for yourself. 3/23 news.

Megaman + Cel-Shading = Cool

They really are running this cel-shading thing into the ground fast. I'm getting sick of it.

LET'S ALL HOPE THAT STREET FIGHTER 4 IS NOT CEL-SHADED!

CELSHADED STREET FIGHTER!?

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BRING IT ON BABY!

LOL J/K

ninjabastard

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"Re(1):MegaMan X7" , posted Thu 23 May 23:04

quote:
Sad news for MegaFans.... or at least this one. -_-.... Mega Man X7 is coming. But in 3D. Bleh...

Link Here

See for yourself. 3/23 news.

I talked with my friend who want to E3 about this game. He said it plays like any other MM just in 2d 1/2. He also said, "This year was all Robots, Mechs, and cell shading." I replied with, "But Mega man has two out of three. It's already ahead of the game."

OmegaDog
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"MegaMan X7 2.5D? + on cel/gouraud shading..." , posted Thu 23 May 23:14

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I talked with my friend who want to E3 about this game. He said it plays like any other MM just in 2d 1/2. He also said, "This year was all Robots, Mechs, and cell shading." I replied with, "But Mega man has two out of three. It's already ahead of the game."

Yeah, some of those screenshots definitely look like they would lend themselves better to 2D gameplay. Perhaps a bit of a mix of 2D and 3D, like the second Goemon N64 title (well, the 3D in the 2nd Goemon N64 title was only regulated to the towns).

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They really are running this cel-shading thing into the ground fast. I'm getting sick of it.

LET'S ALL HOPE THAT STREET FIGHTER 4 IS NOT CEL-SHADED!

I'd say quite the opposite. I'm getting really sick of the overuse of gouraud shading, which has been used in almost every single freakin' game that's out there, even in games that should look more hand-drawn and cel-shaded. I'm welcoming the change, and I truly believe that a good cel-shaded, outlined, perhaps even slightly-textured could resemble a decent handdrawn character.

Not to say gouraud shading is bad -- but come on, it doesn't fit everywhere.

NEXT STAGE IS 3

whitesword

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"Re(1):MegaMan X7 2.5D? + on cel/gouraud shad" , posted Fri 24 May 10:14

Ha! I was expecting 3D backgrounds with 2D sprites, but cell-shading? Well, I guess I should have seen it coming...

Well, whatever it looks like, as long as it's challenging and Zero remains a bad-ass, I'll be fine with it! I just hope they work on those backgrounds a litte, they seem to lack style...

As for a cell-shaded SF, after seeing Jojo in action, I wouldn't mind it, I wouldn't mind it at all, as long as the gameplay remains the same!

RugalBernstein

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"Re(1):MegaMan X7" , posted Fri 24 May 10:58

I actually think it looks pretty good. Now, what I want to see is another game with Wily in it. ^_^

Fro Boy11

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"Re(2):MegaMan X7" , posted Fri 24 May 11:02

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I actually think it looks pretty good. Now, what I want to see is another game with Wily in it. ^_^

Yeah, I would too. I think it's time for a new regular Mega Man game to come out sometime later.

YeldellGW
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"Re(3):MegaMan X7" , posted Fri 24 May 11:15

Looks like Capcom's giving X7 the Strider 2 treatment. It could be interesting. I thought Strider 2 was pretty good.

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Yeah, I would too. I think it's time for a new regular Mega Man game to come out sometime later.

I remember someone saying that in one of the arcade Rockman game endings Mega, Proto, & Bass all got destroyed and showed Dr. Light working on X. If this holds any water to the original series, I wouldn't hold your breath for a Mega Man 9 anytime soon.

Juan

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"Re(4):MegaMan X7" , posted Fri 24 May 11:18

That must be power battle 2, if you beat the game with Forte you get to see Wily with a dark silouette that looks like Zero.

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Looks like Capcom's giving X7 the Strider 2 treatment. It could be interesting. I thought Strider 2 was pretty good.

Yeah, I would too. I think it's time for a new regular Mega Man game to come out sometime later.

I remember someone saying that in one of the arcade Rockman game endings Mega, Proto, & Bass all got destroyed and showed Dr. Light working on X. If this holds any water to the original series, I wouldn't hold your breath for a Mega Man 9 anytime soon.

Fro Boy11

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"Re(4):MegaMan X7" , posted Fri 24 May 11:19

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Looks like Capcom's giving X7 the Strider 2 treatment. It could be interesting. I thought Strider 2 was pretty good.

Yeah, I would too. I think it's time for a new regular Mega Man game to come out sometime later.

I remember someone saying that in one of the arcade Rockman game endings Mega, Proto, & Bass all got destroyed and showed Dr. Light working on X. If this holds any water to the original series, I wouldn't hold your breath for a Mega Man 9 anytime soon.

Well, if that happened then it's OK. I didn't know about that so I no longer need a Mega Man 9. Thanks for letting me know too. X7 for everybody!!!

Dr Baghead

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"Re(2):MegaMan X7" , posted Fri 24 May 11:30

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LET'S ALL HOPE THAT STREET FIGHTER 4 IS NOT CEL-SHADED!

I'm not sure whether or not to agree to that statement...

in my opinion, if Street Fighter was to go 3D I'd like to see Capcom (not Arika, it's time to let people with talent handle SF in 3D)use more realistic style 3D. As Street Fighter is not based on a cartoon nor is it extremely zany (save Dan and the occational Blanka or Zangief taunt) the only thing cel-shading would provid is a gimic and slightly Alphaish graphics.

However should Capcom ever get off their asses and make a 3D Darkstalkers, Pocket Fighter, or other more light hearted/cartoony series cel-shading would probably be a great tool.

back on topic: the game looks interesting to me... I've been dying for a good 2 player co-op game so this is already a must have for me.

It says in their discription "3 different camera views..." I read this as meaning the game will mainly be a 2D-ish side-scroller (as the screen shots imply) but for certain events might switch to a behind the Megaman-view or over-head (the shots show the behind Megaman-view, and the screens of Zero jumping look like the camera is tilted to give the best view of the jump) but I could be wrong.

but if it IS true 3D... has Megaman X killed all the others and now stands as the one true Megaman? His 2D adventures killed the original Megaman, and now that he's gone 3D what chance does Legends have to remain (remembering Capcom has given Tron Bonne a spin-off before, so she can exist without Legends Megaman) and how long until Megaman Zero games have destroyed Megaman Battle network games? HOW MANY MORE X!!! HOW MANY MORE MUST YOU KILL UNTIL YOU'RE HAPPY BEING THE ONLY MEGAMAN!!!!

OmegaDog
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"Re(4):MegaMan X7" , posted Fri 24 May 11:52

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I remember someone saying that in one of the arcade Rockman game endings Mega, Proto, & Bass all got destroyed and showed Dr. Light working on X. If this holds any water to the original series, I wouldn't hold your breath for a Mega Man 9 anytime soon.

Nope -- I believe they all stay very much alive at the end of the Rockman arcade games. However, on both of 'em, especially the second, Dr. Wily indicates that... (only a spoiler if you haven't played through X4...)

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
... he built Zero. Yeah, you probably already knew that by now, but just in case any other folks didn't...

End of Spoiler

NEXT STAGE IS 3

Shin ATproof

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"Plot hole..." , posted Fri 24 May 12:19

...I just realized the Plot Hole in MM7...it's going to be a sequel of X6 right? Well...Zero was frozen in the time capsule! X6 if I recall was supposed to link into Rockman Zero...but are to assume that Zero wakes up early to help X and then goes back into hibernation?

Puar
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"Re(5):MegaMan X7" , posted Fri 24 May 22:41

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I believe they all stay very much alive at the end of the Rockman arcade games. However, on both of 'em, especially the second, Dr. Wily indicates that... (only a spoiler if you haven't played through X4...)

I don't remember anyone dying in the Arcade Games either, but how does Wily indicate that he worked on... you know who... and does that hold any importance or is it just an interesting fact?

"You should get to know me better no one's every what they seem."

Burning Ranger
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"I'm more pissed off about..." , posted Sat 25 May 20:34

...the PS2 exclusivity. I mean, why the PS2 for cripes sake? I remember X4 hitting both the Saturn and the PS(and I proudly own the Saturn version), but now, Capcom seems to be hitting only the PS2... why not on the Gamecube? Ah.. I'm just bitter I guess...

But 3D Megaman X? Cell shaded? Well, from the small shots I've seen, it looks like crap, with no fully 3D cel shaded environments. But then, its early in the development stage...

Ed aka Burning Ranger
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"Re(5):MegaMan X7" , posted Sat 25 May 20:51

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That must be power battle 2, if you beat the game with Forte you get to see Wily with a dark silouette that looks like Zero.

Looks like Capcom's giving X7 the Strider 2 treatment. It could be interesting. I thought Strider 2 was pretty good.

Yeah, I would too. I think it's time for a new regular Mega Man game to come out sometime later.

I remember someone saying that in one of the arcade Rockman game endings Mega, Proto, & Bass all got destroyed and showed Dr. Light working on X. If this holds any water to the original series, I wouldn't hold your breath for a Mega Man 9 anytime soon.

THe only drag is that I got no chance to play PS2 games... gee, I have not still beaten X4 for the PC.... wonder of there is a X5 & X6 for the PC...

Shin ATproof

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"Re(1):I'm more pissed off about..." , posted Sat 25 May 20:59

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...the PS2 exclusivity. I mean, why the PS2 for cripes sake? I remember X4 hitting both the Saturn and the PS(and I proudly own the Saturn version), but now, Capcom seems to be hitting only the PS2... why not on the Gamecube? Ah.. I'm just bitter I guess...

Hey Gamecube can have Biohazard and PS2 can have Rockman...it's only fair!=P LOL j/k

YeldellGW
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"Re(1):Plot hole..." , posted Mon 27 May 15:16

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...I just realized the Plot Hole in MM7...it's going to be a sequel of X6 right? Well...Zero was frozen in the time capsule! X6 if I recall was supposed to link into Rockman Zero...but are to assume that Zero wakes up early to help X and then goes back into hibernation?

I wouldn't be surprise if Rockman Zero is one of those alternate reality what ifs.

Shin ATproof

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"Re(2):Plot hole..." , posted Mon 27 May 15:44

quote:
...I just realized the Plot Hole in MM7...it's going to be a sequel of X6 right? Well...Zero was frozen in the time capsule! X6 if I recall was supposed to link into Rockman Zero...but are to assume that Zero wakes up early to help X and then goes back into hibernation?

I wouldn't be surprise if Rockman Zero is one of those alternate reality what ifs.

Heh...sounds like Capcom.

TekkamanFenrir
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"Re(3):Plot hole..." , posted Wed 29 May 08:42

Personally, I think this will be a refreshing new change to the X series. The series has been getting quite boring and repetitive. I still need to finish X5, and play X6 so i really don't know what happens in those two ( don't worry I'm working on it).

bootation
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"Re(4):Plot hole..." , posted Wed 29 May 12:09

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Personally, I think this will be a refreshing new change to the X series. The series has been getting quite boring and repetitive. I still need to finish X5, and play X6 so i really don't know what happens in those two ( don't worry I'm working on it).

The thing i dont get is that in Rockman Zero Zero doesnt look anything like his megaman x incarnation.

Puar
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"Re(5):Plot hole..." , posted Wed 29 May 13:52

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Personally, I think this will be a refreshing new change to the X series. The series has been getting quite boring and repetitive. I still need to finish X5, and play X6 so i really don't know what happens in those two ( don't worry I'm working on it).

The thing i dont get is that in Rockman Zero Zero doesnt look anything like his megaman x incarnation.

Eh, who knows. I don't get why he uses a gun. I mean, didn't he have, like, an arm buster (i.e. he shoots from his arm), or am I remembering one?

I'm also unsure of the Storyline. Some sources say it's in the future with a corrupted X, and other say that the end boss, Omega X, is a clone.

"You should get to know me better no one's every what they seem."

BlackNinjaVinny
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"Re(6):Plot hole..." , posted Wed 29 May 14:59

Zero in Rockman Zero is something that is seen alot in other mediums. I don't know if there's a term for it though. It's kind of like this.
You know how some people who draw Batman comics give him a different suit then others who draw him? DOes this mean he's changing suits? Nope. It's just the artist's rendition. Meaning that Batman still looks the same like that.
So, in Rockman Zero, it's just a different teams rendition of Zero. I guess they had the .EXE team do the game instead of the original X designers or something.
So, what I'm saying is, Zero in Rockman Zero always looked that way. If the same staff that did Rockman Zero went and did remade the X series, then Zero and X would be changed to what they wanted. It's confusing.
And Rockman Zero story is kind of left opened. I'm assuming that X finally went Irregular and was going crazy. Or something could've happened to X and lots of clones of him were made. Who knows. We'll have to wait for a sequel to find out.

iggy
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"Re(6):Plot hole..." , posted Thu 30 May 01:04

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I'm also unsure of the Storyline. Some sources say it's in the future with a corrupted X, and other say that the end boss, Omega X, is a clone.

In Rockman Zero,

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
the boss is a clone of X built by the girl you meet at the start of the game from X. But he has a different mind, so technically, it is only X's body. The spirit of X gives his saber to Zero, then helps at the end. He kept fighting after Zero's desapearance, and just want to rest more. (until Rockman Zero 2?)

End of Spoiler

Puar

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"Re(7):Plot hole..." , posted Thu 30 May 09:43

So, what happened to the actual X in the Rockman Zero storyline and why was the clone of X built in the first place?

"You should get to know me better no one's every what they seem."

S-T-E
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"ugh, cel-shaded?" , posted Thu 30 May 18:14

i'm getting tired of so many games going cel-shaded like it's the best thing since sliced bread, and the X series is a favorite that i never wanted leave 2D. it better look and play good, and have a good storyline, X5 and X6 have really made me skeptical about this one.

BlackNinjaVinny
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"Re(1):ugh, cel-shaded?" , posted Thu 30 May 21:36

Agreed STE. I was looking through my friend's EGM or whatever gaming magazine and half of the games were cell shaded. Hell, even a First Person shooter was cell shaded. it's getting kind of overdone.

CrazyMike
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"Re(1):MegaMan X7" , posted Thu 30 May 21:43

I think texture mapping is getting overdone myself ^_^

Jaquio
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"Re(2):MegaMan X7" , posted Thu 30 May 22:15

Although i like this series as 2d it doesn't really bug me if it goes 3d. i just hope x7 will have a decent story...some questions i'd like answered are wtf happened to dr. cain! he disappeared after x3...and who is sigma's special ally he was talking about in x5...i sure didnt see him getting help from his ally in x6.

S-T-E
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"Re(2):MegaMan X7" , posted Fri 31 May 11:21

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I think texture mapping is getting overdone myself ^_^

can't wait for mortal kombat, metal gear solid, resident evil, and tekken to go cel-shaded!

whitesword

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"Re(3):MegaMan X7" , posted Fri 31 May 11:37

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can't wait for mortal kombat, metal gear solid, resident evil, and tekken to go cel-shaded!

Neither can I!

Well, not MK, cause you know...I'll never look forward to anything MK related!

*imagines a cell-shaded Raiden taking on fun MGS boss*

Mmmm...

Dr Baghead

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"Re(2):ugh, cel-shaded?" , posted Fri 31 May 11:59

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Agreed STE. I was looking through my friend's EGM or whatever gaming magazine and half of the games were cell shaded. Hell, even a First Person shooter was cell shaded. it's getting kind of overdone.

I agree that there are a few too many cel-shaded games out there... many use the look as a gimic (cel-shaded FPS for example) rather then using it as a tool to enhance a solid and inovative game (Cel-da And JSRF for example.)

I like cel-shading, but that alone isn't enough to get me to buy a game. Cel-Shading is icing, and just because you generously smeer it on a pile of shit doesn't mean I'll eat it.

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"Re(1):ugh, cel-shaded?" , posted Fri 31 May 12:19

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i'm getting tired of so many games going cel-shaded like it's the best thing since sliced bread, and the X series is a favorite that i never wanted leave 2D. it better look and play good, and have a good storyline, X5 and X6 have really made me skeptical about this one.

Actually, I think that X6 is a pretty good game, unlike X5.

S-T-E
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"Re(2):ugh, cel-shaded?" , posted Fri 31 May 16:20

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I agree that there are a few too many cel-shaded games out there... many use the look as a gimic (cel-shaded FPS for example) rather then using it as a tool to enhance a solid and inovative game (Cel-da And JSRF for example.)

I like cel-shading, but that alone isn't enough to get me to buy a game. Cel-Shading is icing, and just because you generously smeer it on a pile of shit doesn't mean I'll eat it.

bingo! another game that went cel-shaded is the new robotech being developed. i haven't seen anything of it (damn you ign!) but it better look like the anime instead of a flying JSR.

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Actually, I think that X6 is a pretty good game, unlike X5.

i liked X6 too. the levels were nice and challenging. better than x5, but i still like x4 the most.