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| iggy
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|  "Re(1):Odd SNK story question."
, posted Sat 18 May 04:28:
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Has there ever been a gay SNK character?
Galford hangs out with Nakoruru, Beni is ultimate straight, Kyo has Yuki, Iori, well, you can't team with Mature and Vice and be gay...
King and Ryo were... strange in Ryuko, but since KOF 99, everybody assume they are together (everybody, except them). Maybe it's a cover...? However, in KOF Kyo, Takuma was completely mad about Yuri beeing friend with King, and Yuri didn't understand why.
I think Yashiro has something about Chris (the perfect girl would be Chris if he was a girl).
Only K' is pretty obvious with Maxima, no wonder many sites call him "Gay dash"
I don't know about Terry (though he has very CLOSE relation to Rock) but Rock is gay, that's sure. proof
And ANDY !!!! of course!!!
How can you refuse to marry Mai like that!!
I think the question is much more easy for Capcom characters...
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| Juke Joint Jezebel 372th Post
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|  "Re(4):Odd SNK story question."
, posted Sat 18 May 14:31
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Those Chinese brothers from FF:Real Bout are probably gay,too.....I'm guessing......they had this one quote that I think I found on some FAQ site that sounded pretty gay........
hahahaha was gonna mention them. something not right about those ancient spirits
when i first played kof, i thought Benimaru was gay ... then i realized the stuff he wears is just his style. i'm pretty sure it was common in the 80s. see Testament in Guilty Gear X and Remy in Street Fighter III: Third Strike. i'm pretty certain none of them are gay. Testament's got that hotass raven and is obsessed with Dizzy. as for Remy, uhhh, i don't wanna spoil it but his ending suggests that he isn't gay. they're just sexy bastards and you know it!!
Shingo might be gay..... nahhh nevermind. he's just obsessed with Kyo. poor guy, he needs another role model. Kyo's kinda a prick. at least Shishiro (ehh? i forgot his name. Kyo's dad) took him in
hmm, gay ... who's gay .... hmmm
by reading some of the comic (well, i dunno how official this is, but..) i'd have to say that Iori's so god damn gay. teamed up with the two sexiest chicks in any god damn video game and all he could think of the whole time was "KYO!!!!" they even made moves on him and he brushed them off. that stupid bastard
other than the manga (i think it was the manga. i dunno. i may be wrong), in the kofs, Iori didn't seem too interested in Mature and Vice .. was just obsessed with fighting Kyo. probably just an excuse so he could cop a feel during the fight, hehehe
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| Olivier Hagué
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| "Re(3):Odd SNK story question." , posted Sat 18 May 20:01:
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Amakuza is possesed by a woman & Mizuki is possesed by a man... though they have the actitude, they are not gay...
Er... No. ^^;
Amakusa Shirô Tokisada possessed Hattori Shinzô, and they were both men.
Mizuki possessed Bizuki, and they were both women.
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(6):Odd SNK story question." , posted Mon 20 May 10:56
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Hard to tell with Vega/Balrog. The guy just likes everything that's beautiful, be it a man or a woman
I thought he only loved him and no one else, wich made him "un-sexual"...
Eagle and Zangief are Gay.
In SSF2X, Zangief has a picture of Balrog in front of his mirror (or it may means he wants to ressemble Balrog, wich is not clear either)
Eagle has.... strange sentences when he beats Yun or when he teams with Kyosuke.
And in Seishun Nikki, there where funny scenes with Kyosuke beeing absorbed in himself (like Balrog)... nothing more, but... (he is the star of the scandalous "Yaoi Megane Webring")
Although it's sometimes hard for people to realize (it was hard for me to realize for a while, even) Balrog/Vega likes everything that's beautiful, not just himself. This is why he throws roses at 'beautiful' characters in Capcom vs SNK 2 (All females, Benimaru, Kyosuke), and also why he decides to save Cammy in SFA3 (he talks a lot of how all he wants is a beautiful rival). And also why he'd prefer that Rose not suicidally walk into her death, etc etc. If it's beautiful, he likes it. Of course, I still imagine that he considers himself to be above every other beautiful thing because he considers himself to be the most beautiful, but eh... ^_~
Zangief is officially stated to be gay by Capcom, and you can see the hints strewn around a lot if you look hard enough :P, but the picture of Vega in that ending isn't one of those hints. ^^ Yea, the picture has "Baka" on it which means stupid which means it's basically Zangief making fun of Vega. Zangief... doesn't like Vega very much (see Vega's SFA3 mid-boss battle with him, I guess)
Eagle has strange sentences with more than half the cast of CvS2, LOL!!! XD But yea, Eagle is almost positively gay in that game (dunno if that's meant to be canon or Capcom just goofing off because they don't plan on doing anything else with Eagle in an actual storyline canon game). In CvS2, Eagle is a tribute to Freddie Mercury of Queen (his win quote, "The show must go on!" as well as several of his poses are heavy indicators of this). Freddie Mercury is gay, so odds are Eagle is gay, too.
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(1):WHAT!?!" , posted Mon 20 May 18:12
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Zangief is officially stated to be gay by Capcom, and you can see the hints strewn around a lot if you look hard enough
I find this hard to believe! What hints? I need examples! I need PROOF!!!
Important Note: I'm not sure exactly how many of these were intended by Capcom as hints about Zangief's sexuality, but they're there.
Implications
From SF2: "You dance very well, Mr. President."
Happily prancing around in a succubus body in Morrigan's ending in Marvel vs Capcom (or... where ever it was)
From CvS2: "My body is perfect! I belong in a magazine!" (On a random note, Zangief is on Vega's ugly list. He's one of the characters in CvS2 that Vega shakes his head in disgust at :P)
The speedo.
His SF2 stage is in a steel construction yard. To quote Moe from the Simpsons, "All Steel Construction Workers are gay."
He has a special introduction with Eagle in CvS2, who's gay.
You can tell that Capcom does NOT want to endorse nor imply a Zangief R. Mika love relationship because R. Mika says to Zangief in SFA3, "I'll have to tell my children about you, someday!" which shows that neither of the two care for a love relationship with the other.
Official proof
Zangief's official bio
Birthday: 1956 June 1
Height: 214cm
Weight: 121kg
BWH sizes: B172, W133, H154
Blood type: A
Birthplace: Russia
Special Skill: Drinking Vodka, enduring the cold
Likes: Wrestling, Kosacs dance
Dislikes: projectiles, young beautiful women
Fighting Style: Wrestling
Note a certain dislike ^_~
And finally, I'm pretty sure any Japanese official story source that gets its information directly from Capcom (All About Capcom, All About Street Fighter whatever, Official Street Fighter Guidebook) goes and flat out states it in Zangief's bio. But... eh, that's only useful to someone who knows Japanese and has access to those sources :P
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| Iron D 1749th Post
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| "Re(2):WHAT!?!" , posted Tue 21 May 00:39:
Hmm...let's see:
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Implications
From SF2: "You dance very well, Mr. President.""
Well, I think he was cossack dancing pretty well, too, and I ain't gay...
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Happily prancing around in a succubus body in Morrigan's ending in Marvel vs Capcom (or... where ever it was)
The VS. series game aren't meant to be taken seriously as a story anyway. I mean, in Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter's Zangief ending, he has a FAMILY! And I'm sure that that's his wife and kids in that ending....
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From CvS2: "My body is perfect! I belong in a magazine!" (On a random note, Zangief is on Vega's ugly list. He's one of the characters in CvS2 that Vega shakes his head in disgust at :P)
Um...there are tons of different magazines ou there that feature male body builders. Men's Health, Bodybuilding, etc....
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The speedo.
Urien and Gill wear even less...they wear THONGS! Not to mention the many male video game characters that wear tight pants *coughbenimarucoughremycoughcough*
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His SF2 stage is in a steel construction yard. To quote Moe from the Simpsons, "All Steel Construction Workers are gay."
As anyone that watches the Simpsons know, Moe isn't exactly a fountain of knowledge. This is the same Moe that locked himself in a bulletproof cubicle to protect himself from Snake, only to leave his cash register wide open for Snake to take all of his money, after which he discovers that the bulletproof cubicle has no air in it...
Besides those look more like power plants to me. That would make more sense, since Russia is often associated with power and power plants (especially after the Russian Nuclear power plant incident that happened in the '80's...I forget the name).
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He has a special introduction with Eagle in CvS2, who's gay.
So does Chang, but no one's calling him gay...
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You can tell that Capcom does NOT want to endorse nor imply a Zangief R. Mika love relationship because R. Mika says to Zangief in SFA3, "I'll have to tell my children about you, someday!" which shows that neither of the two care for a love relationship with the other.
Not all male/female relationships in videogames become love affairs. Guile and Chun-li had interaction with each other, but it seems that there's no relationship potential there either. And according to your next point:
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Official proof
Zangief's official bio
Birthday: 1956 June 1
Height: 214cm
Weight: 121kg
BWH sizes: B172, W133, H154
Blood type: A
Birthplace: Russia
Special Skill: Drinking Vodka, enduring the cold
Likes: Wrestling, Kosacs dance
Dislikes: projectiles, young beautiful women
Fighting Style: Wrestling
Note a certain dislike ^_~
Rainbow Mika=young and beautiful (I certainly think so!^_^) so Zangief wouldn't be attracted to her anyway.
Now, notice how specific the description is. It says "young and beautiful women". Key words: "young" and "beautiful". In Germany, there's a name for a big woman fetish. I'm not sure how it's spelled, but the fetish is called "zaftig". It's a man's love for a big woman. Zangief liking his women big and thick would certainly fit his already pseudo-comedic personality. And, just to add on to that, the woman whom I assume is his wife in his MSHvSF ending is...drum roll please...big and fat.
If Capcom were trying to imply that Zanfief was gay, I think they'd be more likely to say something like
Dislikes:projectiles, women
With the description being as specific as it is, you should be more likely to assume that he just doesn't like what we'd consider to be good looking women, and instead probably prefers them to be big.
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And finally, I'm pretty sure any Japanese official story source that gets its information directly from Capcom (All About Capcom, All About Street Fighter whatever, Official Street Fighter Guidebook) goes and flat out states it in Zangief's bio. But... eh, that's only useful to someone who knows Japanese and has access to those sources :P
If this is indeed true info, wouldn't somebody have confirmed this by now?
I'm not trying to start an argument, and I'm certainly not flaming you (as a matter of fact, you and Ultima are the people whom I regard to be the kings as far as the SF and DS stories are concerned), but I don't find any of these hints to be all that convincing.
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| Olivier Hagué
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| "Re(3):WHAT!?!" , posted Tue 21 May 02:16:
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I mean, in Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter's Zangief ending, he has a FAMILY! And I'm sure that that's his wife and kids in that ending....
That's his parents, brother and sister. No wife, no kids.
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(3):WHAT!?!" , posted Tue 21 May 10:23:
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If this is indeed true info, wouldn't somebody have confirmed this by now?
...I don't count as somebody? :(
Well, like I said, I'm not sure how many of those were intentional or not. All I know is that Capcom of Japan flat out states in more than one source that he's gay. Unless you read Japanese, then... *shrug* What more is there for me to say? Capcom of America censors or changes a whole bunch of Street Fighter information that gets over here, and they most certainly would censor anything that has to do with homosexuality (they did so to Eagle's win quotes in CvS2), so there isn't any proof in English, whatsoever. And most street fighter storyline people who could speak Japanese didn't care enough about Zangief to bring it up to people or just assumed everyone already knew (Zangief isn't exactly a guy that crops up often in storyline discussions, you know? :P I think he's been mentioned only twice in all 1200 posts in the SF storyline thread at shoryuken.com, and both of those times were a long time ago about how he was... well, gay :P). It was a while that the plot guide was labelled with "Regarding a certain Zangief dislike: I have no comment." and nothing else until my Japanese friends finally saw that in the guide and said "Um, you know that Zangief IS gay, right?"
Though it's been well known for quite a while at shoryuken.com that Zangief was gay. So it has been 'confirmed by now' for quite a while. You just didn't hear about it yourself until now :P Sadly, this one falls under the Guile is Ken's brother-in-law category in terms of my ability to prove it to anyone who can't read Japanese. That's even worse than the Poison-is-a-guy category since at least that one people could realize even if they can't read Japanese because the ankh symbol for a male is universal. :P
Not that it really matters, but I always thought that woman in that ending with Zangief's family was meant to be Zangief's mom, not his wife. Birdie calls him a mother's boy in SFA2, after all.
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| Juan 1945th Post
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| "fruity atomic BUSTAAAHH!!!" , posted Tue 21 May 10:35:
I dont know about the whole "Zangief is fruity" thing, to me he's just a happy wrestling Russian.
About the intro with Eagle, i always tought it was because both of them have spinning attacks (if Mike Haggar was in the game, i guarantee you that they would have similar intros.)
Spinning attacks dont make you weird, right?
And about the speedo, ever seen wrestling on tv? wrestler use those and spandex pants.
Can you point to the page in japanese that you mentioned that Zangief is a weirdo? or a scan of the magazine?
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If this is indeed true info, wouldn't somebody have confirmed this by now?
...I don't count as somebody? :(
Well, like I said, I'm not sure how many of those were intentional or not. All I know is that Capcom of Japan flat out states in more than one source that he's gay. Unless you read Japanese, then... *shrug* What more is there for me to say? Capcom of America censors or changes a whole bunch of Street Fighter information that gets over here, and they most certainly would censor anything that has to do with homosexuality. I secretly want to believe that he is fruity yada yada. (they did so to Eagle's win quotes in CvS2), so there isn't any proof in English, whatsoever. And most street fighter storyline people who could speak Japanese didn't care enough about Zangief to bring it up to people (Zangief isn't exactly a guy that i have weak arguments yada yada crops up often in storyline discussions, you know? :P). It was a while that the plot guide was labelled with "Regarding a certain Zangief dislike: I have no comment." and nothing else until my Japanese friends finally saw that in the guide and said "Um, you know that Zangief IS gay, right?"
Though it's been well known for quite a while at shoryuken.com that Zangief was gay. So it has been 'confirmed by now' for quite a while. You just didn't hear about it yourself until now :P
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(5):WHAT!?!" , posted Tue 21 May 23:05:
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Sorry. What I meant to say was, "somebody who speaks japanese and could translate any direct statement of Zangief's sexuality".
Until I see that, I'm still not quite convinced. But to be honest, even if Zangief was gay, that wouldn't make me like any less. BOLISCHOY TAVIEDA!!!
Ah, in that case, if you really want the quote from someone who speaks Japanese, you can find it in this thread. Saiki's the guy you want.
Good luck finding it, though. He's very hard to get a hold of, these days, so a private message won't be very successful. You should trust me when I say that he told it to me directly, but eh, if you really want the truth for yourself directly, it's not my job to go rummaging through 50 posts of backlog just to point out something I've already seen someone post, just because people don't trust me when I say they did ^^
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40326
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| Iron D 1759th Post
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| "Well..." , posted Tue 21 May 23:30:
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Ah, in that case, if you really want the quote from someone who speaks Japanese, you can find it in this thread. Saiki's the guy you want.
Good luck finding it, though. He's very hard to get a hold of, these days, so a private message won't be very successful. You should trust me when I say that he told it to me directly, but eh, if you really want the truth for yourself directly, it's not my job to go rummaging through 50 posts of backlog just to point out something I've already seen someone post, just because people don't trust me when I say they did ^^
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40326
...alright. I'll try to look him up (not right now, though, it's almost midnight here where I am). If possible, do you think you could get him to come here?
Zamuel: My email has changed since the last time we exchanged e-mails. Now it's irongatsby@yahoo.com.
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