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|  "Re(2):Spider-man movie... so, what did you t"
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I really, REALLY hate the metal Green Goblin. I wish that FOX had given them an open budget for effects. TELL me a crazy, CGI Goblin mask EXACTLY like the one in the comics wouldn't have ruled? Plus they could have fixed up some of the average swinging around town shots.
I feel that Kirsten Dunst is average at best. She just seems too...small, young, SOMETHING, i don't know what it is. I think that an older actress would have played the part better, but the fact is, who could it have been?
I miss the Spidey-quips...
No matter what, organic web-shooters suck.
You want excitement? Snap into a slim jim, OOOOOOOOOHHH YEEAAAAAAHHH! Macho Man Rules!
Tobey McGuire is a sub-par actor, in all of his roles. They should have given the role of spidey to the guy who played The Kid in Dick Tracy, Peter's son in Hook, and the nerd in Can't Hardly Wait. I wish i could remember his name...
Personally, i think the movie should have ended with Spidey receiving the black suit.
This is all ust me...
Bolischoy Tavieda!
Owhyawhyawhyawhya!
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| Suichi
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| "Re(1):Spider-man movie... so, what did you t" , posted Sat 4 May 03:33
I've been waiting for this movie since 1989, and it was definately worth the wait. Awesome movie, and aside form a few twists to the story and plot, it was very true to the comics. Moreso than other franchises we've seen go by.
Organic webshooters are awesome for this movie. I don't care how many Spidey fans think it's a bad decision, it works in this movie. Parker's not a genius in this version, he's just really smart. If they had tried to cram in the webshooters as well, it would have been too much and feel rushed. As is, they packed the movie full and it was long.
I think the acting was the strong point of the movie. When I feel that the characters are doing what real people would, and not "acting" then I consider it a successful job.
Overall, it was just awesome. I'm going to see it quite a few times.
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| Puar
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| "Re(3):Spider-man movie... so, what did you t" , posted Sat 4 May 09:13
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Personally, i think the movie should have ended with Spidey receiving the black suit.
Nah, if they did that and stayed true to the comic books, then we'd have to have a space age adventure, though I guess they could've just had the symbiote land on Earth and snatch up old Petey.
Well, my main gripes about the movie were...
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
1) Spidey actually shoots Webs from his palms, they're not web cartridges.
2) For the point in time of the story, the chica should be Gwen Stacy and not Mary Jane Watson.
End of Spoiler
Aside from that, nifty movie. William Dafaoe was definitely the best actor and the Goblin laugh was awesome even if the Metal Goblin Suit was a little farfetched, but, hey... What do you want? It's a comic book movie. (;
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| Hungrywolf 817th Post
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| "Re(1):Ash spotted..." , posted Sat 4 May 15:34
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By the way, i managed to spot stan lee, but didnt see bruce campbell.
I'm surprised that you've missed Bruce Campbell... 
Stan was much harder to spot unless you were actually looking for him. I'd be really surprised if anyone saw Lucy Lawless (Xena) in the movie though. (I didn't see her, but the end credit says otherwise...)
I saw Bruce and barely saw Stan Lee, and Ted Raimi was easy to spot. Lucy Lawless, I think she was a nurse cause the voice sounded like hers but it didn't really show her....I'm not sure though. I thought the movie was excellent! I mean it was incredible, told the story great, and as a long time Spider-fan, I didn't hate the organic webshooters. They made sense. Also, even though I would have made the movie exactly on the Gwen Stacy story, I give this a 10/10 because it went beyond my expectations.
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| Hungrywolf 835th Post
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| "Re(7):Box Office Record..." , posted Sun 5 May 21:03
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They still look cool, though...:)
Hmm, Doc Oc and The Lizard in the same movie. Damn that's going to be fun!
man, the review of the Spidey movie at IGN sucks. The guy says something along the lines that the movie wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either. Man, that movie was good, I don't see how you can say it wasn't good. I really thought it was great. It was. I think Willem Dafoe did an awesome job as GG.
I think I would agree with the reviewer at IGN (though I dun read what they wrote anyway) and some others like Uncauzi that the movie was quite impressive and entertaining (in fact I enjoyed it more than Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings of late), but not groundbreaking and magnificiant to say. Toby and Kristen's acting are kinda stiff and I feel that there aren't enough action and drama around...
Tobey did a good job of playing a geek-like character, I should know, it reminded me of the story of my life when I was in middle school. Anyway, I also thought Kirsten Dunst's acting was fine too.
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| Fro Boy11 362th Post
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| "Re(1):Spider-man movie... so, what did you t" , posted Wed 8 May 06:22
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Spider-man movie is out and I'm sure most of people here have seen it (or will see it in near future). So...
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The movie nearly brought tears to this long time spidey fan... I absolutely loved it!
I saw Spider-Man last night and I loved it! Some things they did a little different, but it wasn't enough to hurt the movie and complain about. Organic web shooters are cool with me. I liked the Green Goblin, MJ, Aunt May, Uncle Ben, and JJJ. The only character I didn't like was Harry for some reason. As the movie went on I found myself not liking him (the character, not the actor). Aunt May came into the movie cool because she said "ass!" I could never picture Aunt May saying "ass."
The sequel should be good. Then the 3rd movie will probably have Harry as the Green Goblin.
As for cameos I saw:
Bruce Campbell
Macho Man Randy Savage
Stan Lee
I thought that they would introduce Betty Brant because that girl with the short hair at the desk at the Daily Bugle reminded me of her. She didn't say what her name was though.
Overall this movie gets a 8/10. I'm only doing that because I know that there's 2 sequels coming.
HULK SUMMER 2003!!! Get ready for that.
AND....
X-Men 2
Daredevil
The Punisher
Fantastic Four (It'll be better than the 1st one, that was CRAPPY!!)
Spider-Man 2
Blade 3 (most likely because of the success of the previous movies)
Dr. Strange
I also heard about an Iron Man movie somewhere, but I don't know if that's true.
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| Hungrywolf 843th Post
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| "Re(2):Spider-man movie... so, what did you t" , posted Wed 8 May 07:26
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Spider-man movie is out and I'm sure most of people here have seen it (or will see it in near future). So...
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The movie nearly brought tears to this long time spidey fan... I absolutely loved it!
I saw Spider-Man last night and I loved it! Some things they did a little different, but it wasn't enough to hurt the movie and complain about. Organic web shooters are cool with me. I liked the Green Goblin, MJ, Aunt May, Uncle Ben, and JJJ. The only character I didn't like was Harry for some reason. As the movie went on I found myself not liking him (the character, not the actor). Aunt May came into the movie cool because she said "ass!" I could never picture Aunt May saying "ass."
The sequel should be good. Then the 3rd movie will probably have Harry as the Green Goblin.
As for cameos I saw:
Bruce Campbell
Macho Man Randy Savage
Stan Lee
I thought that they would introduce Betty Brant because that girl with the short hair at the desk at the Daily Bugle reminded me of her. She didn't say what her name was though.
Overall this movie gets a 8/10. I'm only doing that because I know that there's 2 sequels coming.
HULK SUMMER 2003!!! Get ready for that.
AND....
X-Men 2
Daredevil
The Punisher
Fantastic Four (It'll be better than the 1st one, that was CRAPPY!!)
Spider-Man 2
Blade 3 (most likely because of the success of the previous movies)
Dr. Strange
I also heard about an Iron Man movie somewhere, but I don't know if that's true.
3 of those movies are definately set for next year. Daredevil is set for January 2003, X-men 2 is set for May 2003, and Hulk is set for Summer 2003. I also heard the director of the Fantastic Four movie wants to shoot to release it next year, so that would be 4 Marvel superhero movies next year! Won't that be great. At least 3 of them will be next year, if not 4. Awesome!
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| S-T-E
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| "long, boring, predictable, blaah..." , posted Thu 9 May 07:57
the movie was barely good enough to watch, just BARELY. i really wanted to die in my seat while i watched it. it started off fairly good and interesting, but from the middle to end i felt like i was being tortured by predictable and lame sequences. so i'm going to break it down into two important elements that make me enjoy a movie.
story - 2/5
like i said, it started good. he became spiderman and fought crime, but then it got into the whole love triangle crap. and what's green goblin's motivation to destroy spiderman? because parker is getting close to MJ? why would goblin care about that? that's what nearly killed me in the end, i sat there wondering why these characters are fighting. sorry but i need a better reason than "because he's the good/bad guy". scenes became sooo predictable. like goblin in the burning building, the "join the evil side and we'll both be great!" pep talk, the struggle between choosing to save MJ or a bunch of kids, and how goblin dies. and oh yeah, the ending SUUUUUUUCKED! i swear, the entire theatre was pissed off.
presentation - 6/10
the green goblin's costume looks stupid, stupid, and stupid, and watching this character sing the itsy bitsy spider made me want to slap the person next to me for giggling. parker was a little too nerdy than what i imagined and there's something about MJ that didn't sit right with me. and what's up with aunt may saying "ass", that was so random! randy savage was kinda neat. in fact, i only liked the wrestling scene. BONESAW!!! the CG could've been better, but that's a minor issue. hey, aleast they got Jamerson down perfect.
anyway, i'd rather see venom in the sequel rather than that retard doc octopus (he's such a stupid villain imo). lizard may be cool if they don't screw up his visuals like they did with goblin. they might make him wear a mecha lizard suit with retractable claws and a remote control tail.
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| Juan 1849th Post
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| "Re(1):long, boring, predictable, blaah..." , posted Thu 9 May 08:16
I also tought at first that the goblin suit looked dumb, but now i think its ok. I mean its supposed to be a nanomachine super suit or something like that, so it makes sense for it to look kinda mechanical, It could have been worse. Makes much more sense than a expandex suit with a funny mask would have.
You will most likely not see Venom with spidey. Someone else owns the rights to make a Venom movie.
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the movie was barely good enough to watch, just BARELY. i really wanted to die in my seat while i watched it. it started off fairly good and interesting, but from the middle to end i felt like i was being tortured by predictable and lame sequences. so i'm going to break it down into two important elements that make me enjoy a movie.
story - 2/5
like i said, it started good. he became spiderman and fought crime, but then it got into the whole love triangle crap. and what's green goblin's motivation to destroy spiderman? because parker is getting close to MJ? why would goblin care about that? that's what nearly killed me in the end, i sat there wondering why these characters are fighting. sorry but i need a better reason than "because he's the good/bad guy". scenes became sooo predictable. like goblin in the burning building, the "join the evil side and we'll both be great!" pep talk, the struggle between choosing to save MJ or a bunch of kids, and how goblin dies. and oh yeah, the ending SUUUUUUUCKED! i swear, the entire theatre was pissed off.
presentation - 6/10
the green goblin's costume looks stupid, stupid, and stupid, and watching this character sing the itsy bitsy spider made me want to slap the person next to me for giggling. parker was a little too nerdy than what i imagined and there's something about MJ that didn't sit right with me. and what's up with aunt may saying "ass", that was so random! randy savage was kinda neat. in fact, i only liked the wrestling scene. BONESAW!!! the CG could've been better, but that's a minor issue. hey, aleast they got Jamerson down perfect.
anyway, i'd rather see venom in the sequel rather than that retard doc octopus (he's such a stupid villain imo). lizard may be cool if they don't screw up his visuals like they did with goblin. they might make him wear a mecha lizard suit with retractable claws and a remote control tail.
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| Hungrywolf 848th Post
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| "Re(1):long, boring, predictable, blaah..." , posted Thu 9 May 08:22
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the movie was barely good enough to watch, just BARELY. i really wanted to die in my seat while i watched it. it started off fairly good and interesting, but from the middle to end i felt like i was being tortured by predictable and lame sequences. so i'm going to break it down into two important elements that make me enjoy a movie.
story - 2/5
like i said, it started good. he became spiderman and fought crime, but then it got into the whole love triangle crap. and what's green goblin's motivation to destroy spiderman? because parker is getting close to MJ? why would goblin care about that? that's what nearly killed me in the end, i sat there wondering why these characters are fighting. sorry but i need a better reason than "because he's the good/bad guy". scenes became sooo predictable. like goblin in the burning building, the "join the evil side and we'll both be great!" pep talk, the struggle between choosing to save MJ or a bunch of kids, and how goblin dies. and oh yeah, the ending SUUUUUUUCKED! i swear, the entire theatre was pissed off.
presentation - 6/10
the green goblin's costume looks stupid, stupid, and stupid, and watching this character sing the itsy bitsy spider made me want to slap the person next to me for giggling. parker was a little too nerdy than what i imagined and there's something about MJ that didn't sit right with me. and what's up with aunt may saying "ass", that was so random! randy savage was kinda neat. in fact, i only liked the wrestling scene. BONESAW!!! the CG could've been better, but that's a minor issue. hey, aleast they got Jamerson down perfect.
anyway, i'd rather see venom in the sequel rather than that retard doc octopus (he's such a stupid villain imo). lizard may be cool if they don't screw up his visuals like they did with goblin. they might make him wear a mecha lizard suit with retractable claws and a remote control tail.
Uh, Goblins motivation for fighting Spidey was that Spidey was the only one who can stop him and if Spidey wasn't going to join him, then he had to die....I thought that was pretty clear in the movie.....and Peter is SUPPOSED to be that NERDY. Oh, BTW, good job giving away so many spoilers.
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
GG died the exact same way in the comics, which is why he died that way in the movie.
End of Spoiler
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
I liked the ending, because it wasn't what was expected, instead of getting the girl, Peter realized anyone close to him was in danger because something like what happened could happen again....
End of Spoiler
The story was good, and was basically straight from the comic books, with Mary Jane instead of Gwen Stacy. I thought it was done excellently. You obviously aren't a Spider-man fan....And uh, the Lizard will probably have the same origin as the comics, so Dr. Conners will actually become a lizard trying to make his arm regenerate. If you know that, of course, which you might not, since you didn't see the similarities in the aforementioned first spoiler I put there, which you didn't even list as a spoiler in your post.
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| Hungrywolf 849th Post
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| "Re(2):long, boring, predictable, blaah..." , posted Thu 9 May 08:26
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I also tought at first that the goblin suit looked dumb, but now i think its ok. I mean its supposed to be a nanomachine super suit or something like that, so it makes sense for it to look kinda mechanical, It could have been worse. Makes much more sense than a expandex suit with a funny mask would have.
You will most likely not see Venom with spidey. Someone else owns the rights to make a Venom movie.
Actually, even if someone has the rights to a Venom movie, it's still possible that Venom could be in Spidey. I mean, Kingpin still had a chance til Avi Arad decided they wanted to keep Kingpin exclusive to the Daredevil film. Since the folks at Marvel have a say in it, they may let Venom appear in one of the movies, especially since that is THE best way to explain his origin.
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| Juan 1852th Post
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| "Re(3):long, boring, predictable, blaah..." , posted Thu 9 May 08:31
Actually the ones with the money put the final say in this case. There may be a chance to see Venom in a spidey movie, but maybe in a very very very long time.
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I also tought at first that the goblin suit looked dumb, but now i think its ok. I mean its supposed to be a nanomachine super suit or something like that, so it makes sense for it to look kinda mechanical, It could have been worse. Makes much more sense than a expandex suit with a funny mask would have.
You will most likely not see Venom with spidey. Someone else owns the rights to make a Venom movie.
Actually, even if someone has the rights to a Venom movie, it's still possible that Venom could be in Spidey. I mean, Kingpin still had a chance til Avi Arad decided they wanted to keep Kingpin exclusive to the Daredevil film. Since the folks at Marvel have a say in it, they may let Venom appear in one of the movies, especially since that is THE best way to explain his origin.
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| Dr Baghead 877th Post
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| "Re(1):long, boring, predictable, blaah..." , posted Thu 9 May 11:06
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the movie was barely good enough to watch, just BARELY. i really wanted to die in my seat while i watched it. it started off fairly good and interesting, but from the middle to end i felt like i was being tortured by predictable and lame sequences. so i'm going to break it down into two important elements that make me enjoy a movie.
story - 2/5
like i said, it started good. he became spiderman and fought crime, but then it got into the whole love triangle crap. and what's green goblin's motivation to destroy spiderman? because parker is getting close to MJ? why would goblin care about that? that's what nearly killed me in the end, i sat there wondering why these characters are fighting. sorry but i need a better reason than "because he's the good/bad guy". scenes became sooo predictable. like goblin in the burning building, the "join the evil side and we'll both be great!" pep talk, the struggle between choosing to save MJ or a bunch of kids, and how goblin dies. and oh yeah, the ending SUUUUUUUCKED! i swear, the entire theatre was pissed off.
presentation - 6/10
the green goblin's costume looks stupid, stupid, and stupid, and watching this character sing the itsy bitsy spider made me want to slap the person next to me for giggling. parker was a little too nerdy than what i imagined and there's something about MJ that didn't sit right with me. and what's up with aunt may saying "ass", that was so random! randy savage was kinda neat. in fact, i only liked the wrestling scene. BONESAW!!! the CG could've been better, but that's a minor issue. hey, aleast they got Jamerson down perfect.
anyway, i'd rather see venom in the sequel rather than that retard doc octopus (he's such a stupid villain imo). lizard may be cool if they don't screw up his visuals like they did with goblin. they might make him wear a mecha lizard suit with retractable claws and a remote control tail.
Roger Ebert?!?!?! When did you become a member of the MMCafe Board?!?!
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| Puar
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| "Re(2):long, boring, predictable, blaah..." , posted Thu 9 May 12:15
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And uh, the Lizard will probably have the same origin as the comics, so Dr. Conners will actually become a lizard trying to make his arm regenerate.
Did you catch the Doc Connors reference in the movie?
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
When Spidey returns from running into Mary Jane after she gets off work at the Diner, Harry asks what he's been up to and he tells him that Doc Connors fired him for being late, again.
End of Spoiler
There's also a slight Venom reference.
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
When we're first introduced to J. Jonah Jameson, and Robbie who everyone I've talked to has agreed was bad casting... Robbie isn't a fat 'tard! Anyhow, Jameson ask Robbie why they don't have any good pictures of Spidey and Robbie responds that Eddie has been on it for awhile, Eddie as in Eddie Brock of course, or so we can be led to assume since using his actual full name would probably lead to a legal hoopla with whatever movie company owns Venom.
End of Spoiler
Don't know if those were actually spoilers, but decided to make them anyhow, just in case someone didn't want that ruined for them.
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| dorikyasu 440th Post
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| "Re(2):hey now..." , posted Thu 9 May 12:38
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Really? Well he sure didn't sound like the on the show...
Yup. See for yourself. Guess he didn't have much time to describe the parts he liked fully in the limited time he had on the show.
Ebert's review of Spider-man
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Maguire gets all of that just right, and I enjoyed the way Dunst is able to modulate her gradually increasing interest in this loser who begins to seem attractive to her. I also liked the complexity of the villain, who in his Dr. Jekyll manifestation is brilliant tycoon Norman Osborn (Willem Dafoe) and in his Mr. Hyde persona is a cackling psychopath. Osborn's son Harry (James Franco) is a rich kid, embarrassed by his dad's wealth, who is Peter's best and only friend, and Norman is affectionate toward Peter even while their alter-egos are deadly enemies. That works, and there's an effective scene where Osborn has a conversation with his invisible dark side.
The origin story is well told, and the characters will not disappoint anyone who values the original comic books. It's in the action scenes that things fall apart.
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I agree with most of what Ebert said, except for the part where he complained about the action sequences, which I thought was well done in the spirit of comic book it's based on. (he complains about Spider-man action sequences while he praises "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" scenes as having dimension & weight? I don't know anyone who didn't burst out laughing when Chow Yun-Fat pulled superman in one of the scenes...)
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| Juan 1859th Post
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| "Re(3):hey now..." , posted Thu 9 May 12:46
I dont see why some people were expecting some ubber complicated super plot in a super hero movie. This was supposed to be a fun flick, and it does an excellent job as that.
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Really? Well he sure didn't sound like the on the show...
Yup. See for yourself. Guess he didn't have much time to describe the parts he liked fully in the limited time he had on the show.
Ebert's review of Spider-man
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Maguire gets all of that just right, and I enjoyed the way Dunst is able to modulate her gradually increasing interest in this loser who begins to seem attractive to her. I also liked the complexity of the villain, who in his Dr. Jekyll manifestation is brilliant tycoon Norman Osborn (Willem Dafoe) and in his Mr. Hyde persona is a cackling psychopath. Osborn's son Harry (James Franco) is a rich kid, embarrassed by his dad's wealth, who is Peter's best and only friend, and Norman is affectionate toward Peter even while their alter-egos are deadly enemies. That works, and there's an effective scene where Osborn has a conversation with his invisible dark side.
The origin story is well told, and the characters will not disappoint anyone who values the original comic books. It's in the action scenes that things fall apart.
...."
I agree with most of what Ebert said, except for the part where he complained about the action sequences, which I thought was well done in the spirit of comic book it's based on. (he complains about Spider-man action sequences while he praises "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" scenes as having dimension & weight? I don't know anyone who didn't burst out laughing when Chow Yun-Fat pulled superman in one of the scenes...)
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