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| Muchiko
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|  "Re(2):KoF 2001 poll"
, posted Fri 3 May 00:00
Have any of you actually played 2001 competitively? Or realized that 2001 is the most balanced KOF ever?
Stating that the game sucks cuz you can do Heidern's sweep into Fireball is just pure stupidity... seriously.
I'd give 2001 a 10 for gameplay alone. Other than gameplay, the game just sucks when compared to other versions. But I play KOF for gameplay first, then design, then aesthetics, then music and story. Too bad Jhun Hoon isn't in 2001. ARRGGGHHH!
And you guys should get the facts straight. Eolith did not make the game, if so, 2001 wouldn't be what it is. Eolith has no experience in fighting games. Beside, even the great Capcom who invented the genre can't even do a decent job with KOF characters, with their CvS series. No one can make KOF except SNK, who has been developing the series ever since. Eolith just helped them in 2001, but it was so minor. Now Eolith are expecting to be more of help in 2001 as they have some experienced with 2001.
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| Burning Kyo
241th Post
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|  "Re(3):KoF 2001 poll"
, posted Fri 3 May 02:50
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Have any of you actually played 2001 competitively? Or realized that 2001 is the most balanced KOF ever?
Stating that the game sucks cuz you can do Heidern's sweep into Fireball is just pure stupidity... seriously.
I'd give 2001 a 10 for gameplay alone. Other than gameplay, the game just sucks when compared to other versions. But I play KOF for gameplay first, then design, then aesthetics, then music and story. Too bad Jhun Hoon isn't in 2001. ARRGGGHHH!
And you guys should get the facts straight. Eolith did not make the game, if so, 2001 wouldn't be what it is. Eolith has no experience in fighting games. Beside, even the great Capcom who invented the genre can't even do a decent job with KOF characters, with their CvS series. No one can make KOF except SNK, who has been developing the series ever since. Eolith just helped them in 2001, but it was so minor. Now Eolith are expecting to be more of help in 2001 as they have some experienced with 2001.
IMO, The KOF 2k1 isn't the most balanced KOF !
Just because there is many characters which is good the previous years 'n this year they suck (eg : Kyo,Chang,King 'n Bao).
'N because when the DMs are as powerful as the SDMs (eg : Kensou 'n Joe).
So ...
IMO, the most balanced KOF is the '98 !
But It's only MO 'n I respect everyone's opinion.
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| justicekyo
99th Post
Occasional Customer
| "Re(3):KoF 2001 poll" , posted Fri 3 May 15:06
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Have any of you actually played 2001 competitively? Or realized that 2001 is the most balanced KOF ever?
Stating that the game sucks cuz you can do Heidern's sweep into Fireball is just pure stupidity... seriously.
I'd give 2001 a 10 for gameplay alone. Other than gameplay, the game just sucks when compared to other versions. But I play KOF for gameplay first, then design, then aesthetics, then music and story. Too bad Jhun Hoon isn't in 2001. ARRGGGHHH!
And you guys should get the facts straight. Eolith did not make the game, if so, 2001 wouldn't be what it is. Eolith has no experience in fighting games. Beside, even the great Capcom who invented the genre can't even do a decent job with KOF characters, with their CvS series. No one can make KOF except SNK, who has been developing the series ever since. Eolith just helped them in 2001, but it was so minor. Now Eolith are expecting to be more of help in 2001 as they have some experienced with 2001.
so why does it have the "Eolith" screen after boot up?
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| Dragon-warrior
230th Post
Frequent Customer
| "Re(7):KoF 2001 poll" , posted Fri 3 May 21:12:
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Simply not fun,and one of the choppiest I've seen in a while.
yes , that what I was going to say , ahh I can't forget the Awsome Backrounds!
LOOOOOOOL the girl in the bikini
LOOOOOOOL  but , I want to be fair the Backround don't matter the game play is better than 2K but still bad, Ryo jump CD is so powerful, Yuri? what shall I say????? her annoying sound is enough to make me hate the game, they change chang and Hidren moves (from  into  "Haidren-Kill" :P that suxs), the story is kinda cool the Super power in Bao -_- nice, that mean he gona die soon ^_^ as Chris(SNK cute small boys always have Evil in them and they must die) good.
and the soundtrack is Awful, the worst KOF sound track I heard until now, KOF2K was the best.
so still fun to play but I was hoping a much better game.
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| Fygee
202th Post
Frequent Customer
| "Re(8):KoF 2001 poll" , posted Fri 3 May 23:05
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Simply not fun,and one of the choppiest I've seen in a while.
The choppiest? The animation quality was the best its ever been in KOF. o_O
Anywho, I give it an eight overall. The gameplay is extremely solid, the new characters are awesome, the stages are fantastic (some say they lack color, but that doesn't bother me...much better than 2000's stages), and the bosses rule.
My beefs with it are the fantastically horrible music (there's a few good songs, but most are an insult to the greatness that was KOF's music), the wacked out damage for most supers (a normal super doing 45% damage, and an SDM only doing 5% more than that? Come on!!) and a few special moves (Leona's moon slasher on a counter takes out 30%!!!), and, of course, the art. Some of it looks good, but most of it just horrible, misproportionate, and overall really, really goofy (Andy and Yuri's win poses for example).
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| Muchiko
41th Post
Rare Customer
| "Re(4):KoF 2001 poll" , posted Sun 5 May 00:53
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IMO, The KOF 2k1 isn't the most balanced KOF! Just because there is many characters which is good the previous years 'n this year they suck (eg : Kyo,Chang,King 'n Bao).
Bao sucks? If you count infinite, he's one of the best character in the game. Without it, he is still good since he can cancel his moves into another move, etc. And how can Chang be worst when his moves doesn't require any charge anymore? Kyo is much much worst than his '98 version; however, he is still good compared to other characters with his ability to pressure with strikers. Now, if you were to compare '98 Kyo with other '98 characters, you know Kyo will own them. Same with Goro, Chris, Iori, etc. in '98.
I can prove that '98 is less balanced than '01 because Andy in '98 is much worst than his '01, and Kyo was much more powerful in his '98 than his '01.
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'N because when the DMs are as powerful as the SDMs (eg : Kensou 'n Joe).
So ...
I don't get your point. So having DMs as powerful as SDMs, 2001 is less balanced character-wise?
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IMO, the most balanced KOF is the '98 !
But It's only MO 'n I respect everyone's opinion.
Usually, balance critiques aren't opinion. You can prove who is better than who through gameplay facts and analyses, and what not. And this is easily done when you compare a character in previous versions to the next.
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| YeldellGW
128th Post
Regular Customer
| "Re(3):KoF 2001 poll" , posted Sun 5 May 19:49
I gave KOF 2001 a 9.
The game's giving me plenty of enjoyment despite it's flaws.
I love how many times infinities have been mentioned when the topic of what's wrong with this game pops up. I'm not crazy about them either' but it's not like this is the only game where they've appeared (Terry 97 anyone?!). Geez, how many damn re-dizzy combos did Capcom sneak into those SF II games anyway!
Got no problems with the bgs. They serve their purpose well enough for me.
You'll have a hard time convincing me with all this balance stuff since the only way I'll ever get to play this game is at home on my AES system (The arcades aroung here think the only good fighters come from Capcom and Namco; with an appearance from Midway from time to time.).
I like the tunes (Knew I would just for the fact most everyone else hates them.).
I only gripes with the game:
No super bars for the bosses (Can we make them any cheaper please?!)
The wire system, Don't care for juggles myself but it's funny how people can diss this but whine when Kyo lost his   kick.kick move in CvS. The Wire system is nothing more than a modified juggle system. If people don't mind Kyo's kick.kick   punch after all these years (Personally, I was happy that it was losted in KOF 99.); they better not whine about the Wire system because it's just a variation of that!
Certain DM motions, particularly the  x4 and the    ones. I have a hard enough time with x2 and I've never been great with that Raging Storm prezel nonsense either.
The usual gripes with moves that were taken out. Didn't mind most but some remained that should've been taken out. Iori still has his cheezy  punch move, Ralf's GP is now a standard special (Guess it would have made too much sense to remove it altogether!), Kyo still has his kick.kick, etc.
Not crazy about the ratio system, but at least it was better handled here than in the CvS games (Every one's the same ratio as opposed to that 1 ratio 2 charcter and 2 ratio 1 character nonsense!).
Just another underated game I like that's rejected by the rest. Geez, I'm on a role! Wonder what will be the next underated thing I'll be wild about?
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