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| iggy
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|  "Re(7):[Poll] Favorite Fight Game Storylines"
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Toxico means the four winds... I only remember Suzaku, who is the wind of the East. There are also a tiger, a turtle, and a dragon...
Suzaku, the red bird, is the South and the Fire, opposed to Genbu, North, water and Turtle.
I'm not sure for the East and West...
I think Seiryu, the blue dragon, is west and wind, and the white tiger east and earth.
Then, there are many things in feng sui with these...(read Jojo for more, Kenzo talks about it!)
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| whitesword 638th Post
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| "Re(8):[Poll] Favorite Fight Game Storylines" , posted Sun 28 Apr 15:43
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Toxico means the four winds... I only remember Suzaku, who is the wind of the East. There are also a tiger, a turtle, and a dragon...
Suzaku, the red bird, is the South and the Fire, opposed to Genbu, North, water and Turtle.
I'm not sure for the East and West...
I think Seiryu, the blue dragon, is west and wind, and the white tiger east and earth.
Then, there are many things in feng sui with these...(read Jojo for more, Kenzo talks about it!)
In Star Gladiator Episode II, Byakko, Suzaku, Seiryu, and Genbu are 4 demi-human super commandos working for the Earth Federation...too bad only one of them was playable
(Wants to play as Suzaku)
They're leader Rai-On has the Shungokusatsu and Blanka's rolling attacks!
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| DKW
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| "FF!" , posted Sun 28 Apr 19:47
Fret not, BlackNinjaVinny, you're not alone...chalk up one more vote for Fatal Fury.
Orochi saga? Feh. Ridiculously narrow focus on a tiny elite handful of characters...in KING OF FIGHTERS, for crying out loud. That's just plain wrong, people.
Soul Calibur? Fairly compelling story, but suffers from too many inexplicable twists and turns...plus a bunch of guys have been same 'ol same 'ol for way too long (hello, Heishiro and Seung M!).
Street Fighter Alpha...gah, that one's a non-starter. Listen, when a game's storyline utterly fails to accomplish any of the tasks laid in front of it (such as, you know, clearing up SF continuuity), there's a problem.
Darkstalkers simply ended too soon...hard to build up much of any storyline with just two original games.
But with Fatal Fury, that's fighting at its essence. No super-convoluted (and super-confusing) plotlines. Everyone matters. Everyone has a shot. Each new boss is after a different thing than the one before. And each game's story is complete in istelf; you don't have tedious plot elements carrying on through game after game after game (Kyo vs. Iori, anyone?). Best of all, it doesn't get wrapped up in magic and mystery and all that supernatural hokum. Yes, yes, there was some hysteria over the Jin scrolls, but it ultimately didn't lead to anything.
Of course, you could've guessed this (somewhat) from my "avatar picture". Yep, just gotta be the devil's advocate, don't I.
homepage - http://home.hawaii.rr.com/dkwff
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(1):FF!" , posted Sun 28 Apr 21:26:
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Street Fighter Alpha...gah, that one's a non-starter. Listen, when a game's storyline utterly fails to accomplish any of the tasks laid in front of it (such as, you know, clearing up SF continuuity), there's a problem.
I always wondered what was up with that purpose. I mean, before Alpha, what continuity was there that needed to be cleared up? The only mysterious thing in SF2 was Cammy, really. O_o The rest like... did we REALLY need the alpha series to tell us that Bison killed Chun-Li's father and Guile's partner, Charlie? Oo It's not like there was some great plot hole that SF2 created that Alpha needed to fix or anything, and the majority of Alpha storylines have absolutely NOTHING to do with Street Fighter 2, from Bison doing body switching to Akuma fighting Gen to Birdie being a member of Shadaloo to... well, EVERYTHING. Oo
It's almost like how Capcom somewhere along the line just said "Oh screw trying to just be a prequel to SF2. Let's make Alpha it's own humongous massive storyline by itself." and such...
On a side note, Fatal Fury is my second favorite storyline. Kain and Geese are my favorite fighting game villains and it's a lot less simplistic than the 'focused completely on the hero team and everyone else is just there' KOF plotline :P
On another random note, regarding "magic and mystery and all that supernatural hokum", my opinion of the Fatal Fury storyline is going to soooo plummet if SNK dares to do a "Geese returns by possessing his son, Rock" thing...
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| Taa kun
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| "Re(8):[Poll] Favorite Fight Game Storylines" , posted Mon 29 Apr 02:41
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Suzaku, the red bird, is the South and the Fire, opposed to Genbu, North, water and Turtle.
I'm not sure for the East and West...
I think Seiryu, the blue dragon, is west and wind, and the white tiger east and earth.
Then, there are many things in feng sui with these...(read Jojo for more, Kenzo talks about it!)
The correct cardinal orientation is :
North for Gembu
South for Suzaku
West for Byakko
East for Seiryu
Why does people tends to associate asian myths with purely occidental concepts.
The four elements of earth, air, water and fire are purely occidental alchemy...
If I'm wrong correct me, but I think Seiryu is lightning, Suzaku is fire, Byakko is wood and Gembu is iron...
Myu ?
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(1):Whitesword" , posted Mon 29 Apr 15:13:
I like Tekken's storyline, but my main beef with it is that ALL of it practically is OUTSIDE the game. I mean, Tekken 2 was like, what, 80% joke and what-if endings? Where did Jun being in love with Kazuya come from, anyways? Oo There are like, no hints whatsoever from game to game what will be in the next game, and they are very disjointed. Things like Nina being put frozen by Dr. Boskonovitch and Paul winning the Tekken 3 tournament but leaving before beating True Ogre... none of that stuff was remotely hinted at in previous Tekken game endings. The majority of Tekken endings are what-if joke endings that have no relevance to either the grand scheme of things or even individual character development or life advancement. Even with Street Fighter Alpha 3, you could deduce enough of the main plot by figuring out which endings happened and which didn't through process of elimination, and KOF needless to say is VERY easy to see the lead-in from KOF tourney to KOF tourney (though admittingly, KOF's plot is straightforward to the point where only the most deus ex machina of writers would have screwed that one up), but for Tekken... well, like I said, 80% of the endings in that game are either joke or what-if. About the ONLY storyline-relevent ending I can think of in Tekken 2 that was part of the official story was Heihachi's, and for Tekken 3, I think the only ending that actually was part of the official storyline was Jin's. The rest of the endings either didn't happen, were just joke endings, or were ridiculously pointless (Does Paul getting a ticket have anything to do with any grand scheme of things at all, for example). With the exception of Kazuya's ending in T1, Heihachi's ending in T2, and Jin's ending in T3 (well, maybe possibly Hwaorang's ending, too) and perhaps certain Jack endings, nearly all Tekken endings have NOTHING to do with the official storyline as far as I can recall.
...course, this poll was about which storylines were the best, not how well (or in Tekken's case, how -much-) they were presented in the games, so I guess you could consider this post a bit off-topic. ^^;
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| ChunliFan
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| "Re(2):Whitesword" , posted Mon 29 Apr 15:37
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I like Tekken's storyline, but my main beef with it is that ALL of it practically is OUTSIDE the game. I mean, Tekken 2 was like, what, 80% joke and what-if endings? Where did Jun being in love with Kazuya come from, anyways? Oo There are like, no hints whatsoever from game to game what will be in the next game, and they are very disjointed. Things like Nina being put frozen by Dr. Boskonovitch and Paul winning the Tekken 3 tournament but leaving before beating True Ogre... none of that stuff was remotely hinted at in previous Tekken game endings. Even with Street Fighter Alpha 3, you could deduce enough of the main plot by figuring out which endings happened and which didn't through process of elimination, and KOF needless to say is VERY easy to see the lead-in from KOF tourney to KOF tourney (though admittingly, KOF's plot is straightforward to the point where only the most deus ex machina of writers would have screwed that one up), but for Tekken... well, like I said, 80% of the endings in that game are either joke or what-if. About the ONLY storyline-relevent ending I can think of in Tekken 2 that was part of the official story was Heihachi's, and for Tekken 3, I think the only ending that actually was part of the official storyline was Jin's. The rest of the endings either didn't happen, were just joke endings, or were ridiculously pointless (Does Paul getting a ticket have anything to do with any grand scheme of things at all, for example). With the exception of Kazuya's ending in T1, Heihachi's ending in T2, and Jin's ending in T3 (well, maybe possibly Hwaorang's ending, too) and perhaps certain Jack endings, nearly all Tekken endings have NOTHING to do with the official storyline as far as I can recall.
...course, this poll was about which storylines were the best, not how well (or in Tekken's case, how -much-) they were presented in the games, so I guess you could consider this post a bit off-topic. ^^;
I agree with you Tiamat Roar. Tekken's storyline is hard to read from game to game. I have no idea whats going on in Tekken 4. :confused
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| Iron D 1647th Post
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| "PS questions" , posted Mon 29 Apr 16:49
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Anyway, if you have any specific questions, ask away!
Alrighty then!
1) Did Bilstein actually die after SG? And who the heck is Ghost Bilstein? And who is this Super Bilstein you keep mentioning? Note: I haven't beaten PS with Bilstein yet, so if doing so would answer my questions, let me know).
2)How old is Ele?
3) Can you give me the background info on the Fourth Empire and the whole war that's going on? What's Hayato's role in it?
4) Gerelt used to work for Bilstein? Why did he stop? Is he a bad guy? What of Claire?
5) What's Saturn's story and what's his relation to Prince?
6) What's the reason for Gore creating er...uhm...I forger her name...you know, the girl that plays like him?
7) What happened to the dinosaur guy (whose name I can't remember) from SG?
8) What are the stories for the robots (I forgot both of their names, but they play similar to each other and have the beam moves), Byakko, the girl with the freeze plasma field, Blood, and Shaker?
I'll play it a bit more tonight, and probably have more questions for you tomorrow. THANKS ALOT!!!
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| whitesword 645th Post
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| "Re(1):PS questions" , posted Mon 29 Apr 18:09
That's...more than I was expecting, but here I go!
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1) Did Bilstein actually die after SG? And who the heck is Ghost Bilstein? And who is this Super Bilstein you keep mentioning? Note: I haven't beaten PS with Bilstein yet, so if doing so would answer my questions, let me know).
Finishing the game with Bilstein and Ghost Bilstein would answer most of those questions, but I'll tell you anyway!
Bilstein did die (and was revived later by Rain, with a new body).
Ghost Bilstein is actually Bilstein's former body, it came back to life because of its extreme Plasma power, but only as a mindless zombie bent on Hayato's destruction (cause he killed him!)
Super Bilstein is the result of Bilstein using the first Plasma Field ever (there were no Plasma Fields in SG1), he's basically a super fast version of Bilstein with an instant (as in, no start-up, and no recovery time) teleport, and an unblockable full screen, 100% damage move (it's the Gigantic Explosion, and btw, it's also unblockable in PS when used in his Plasma Field!)
You can't continue if you lose to Super Bilstein, instead you get Bad Ending #2 (the first one is when you don't reach him at all) and to reach him, you have to beat Bilstein in a very short time (6 minutes for 2 out of 3 rounds, I believe), but if you do beat him, you get to see the characters' true endings...nothing fancy, just a character portrait and some text, but the content is good!
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2)How old is Ele?
I dunno! Keep in mind that she's from the future!
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3) Can you give me the background info on the Fourth Empire and the whole war that's going on? What's Hayato's role in it?
Basically...
In 2348, Bilstein discovers humanity's sixth sense "Plasma Power" and begins the development of a super Plasma Weapon for the Earth Federation, but then they find out that he used human test subjects (which is illegal) so the development of the Plasma Weapon is stopped, and Dr. Edward Bilstein was imprisoned in a prison orbiting planet Zeta (that's where all the big prisoners, including Zelkin are)...
4 years later, several federation army bases on Zeta were suddenly attacked and wiped out by a group of rebels calling themselves "The Fourth Empire"...and guess who was the emperor? Yep, Bilstein! (escaped with Rain's help? Or with the help of a Vector prototype? Who cares!)
Knowing that Bilstein would try to rebuild his Super Plasma Weapon and use it against Earth, and that a direct attack wouldn't be a good idea (Vector bots with Plasma Generator powered Lasers are nasty!) the federation decided to send a small group of people capable of using Plasma Arms into the heart of the empire to assassinate Bilstein, this plan was codenamed "Star Gladiator"
How does Hayato fit into this? Simple, he and his partner Gamof were bounty hunters who were sick of bounty hunting, so they saw the offer and joined up!
A year after Hayato killed Bilstein, rumors of Bilstein's ghost began to spread...and that's where Plasma Sword starts!
There's more to this, but it'll be answered when you ask me about Black Hayato!
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4) Gerelt used to work for Bilstein? Why did he stop? Is he a bad guy? What of Claire?
Gerelt's story is kinda messy (again, spoony English translation), but I think he joined Bilstein because Bilstein kidnapped his family and blackmailed him into joining him...or something like that, anyway, what's certain is that Gerelt's a good guy, his family was kidnapped in SG1 but later rescued, but Gerelt remained with (or was captured by?) Bilstein because good old Dr. Edward managed to lock a bomb around Gerelt's neck, therefore enslaving him.
Like I said...messy! As for Claire, I don't know much about her, except that she likes Gerelt, and that she's one of the 4th Empire's most loyal soldiers.
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5) What's Saturn's story and what's his relation to Prince?
Rivals...street performing rivals!
Prince may or may not be the Prince of Saturn's planet, but either way, he joins Bilstein to mess things up for Saturn and the SG team.
I hate Prince, I really really hate him! But Saturn's cool, afterall, how many 260 year old, street performing, super spy/super hero, Yo-Yo using Star Gladiators are there?
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6) What's the reason for Gore creating er...uhm...I forger her name...you know, the girl that plays like him?
He wanted a girlfriend...he's a 20 year old freak, you can't really blame him for wanting somebody to love (but you can make fun of him!)
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7) What happened to the dinosaur guy (whose name I can't remember) from SG?
Rimgal, a.k.a Michael Milliam (June's father), killed himself once he started to feel the monster within him taking control...spoony
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8) What are the stories for the robots (I forgot both of their names, but they play similar to each other and have the beam moves), Byakko, the girl with the freeze plasma field, Blood, and Shaker?
The 4th Empire Robots:
Vector is the mass production model, not much of a story.
Omega is the prototype model, had "flaws" in his logic circuits (kept asking stuff like "What is heart?")
Yep...a Tin Man!
Byakko:
He's part of an Earth Federation team of super human (genetically engineered?) special operations soldiers, he was sent to Zeta to kill each and every Plasma used because they can all be used in Bilstein's super plasma weapon, the "Space End"
Rain Bilstein:
Mistress of plasma ice blades, and Bilstein's daughter, she was responsible for her father's revival. She's also looking for a groom under her father's orders, with Hayato as the number one candidate!!!
Blood & Shaker:
Blood Barbarians was the first of Bilstein's test subjects, he possess incredible Plasma power, possibly even more than Bilstein's himself, but Bilstein managed to control him with a "Plasma Spell"...until recently! Blood is now free and looking for revnege! He's also the first "3rd Influence", neither with the Earth Federation nor the Fourth Empire. He also might have been adopted by Bilstein...(can't confirm that)
As for Shaker (and the other two just like him) they're all clones of Blood, and they're all deadly!
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I'll play it a bit more tonight, and probably have more questions for you tomorrow. THANKS ALOT!!!
Good! And remeber...Plasma Fields kick ass!
*thinks the game would have been more balanced if Plasma Fields cost 2 levels of plasma energy*
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| Iron D 1656th Post
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| "More SG/PS questions for Whitesword" , posted Wed 1 May 15:07
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Bilstein did die (and was revived later by Rain, with a new body).
Ghost Bilstein is actually Bilstein's former body, it came back to life because of its extreme Plasma power, but only as a mindless zombie bent on Hayato's destruction (cause he killed him!)
Super Bilstein is the result of Bilstein using the first Plasma Field ever (there were no Plasma Fields in SG1), he's basically a super fast version of Bilstein with an instant (as in, no start-up, and no recovery time) teleport, and an unblockable full screen, 100% damage move (it's the Gigantic Explosion, and btw, it's also unblockable in PS when used in his Plasma Field!)
You can't continue if you lose to Super Bilstein, instead you get Bad Ending #2 (the first one is when you don't reach him at all) and to reach him, you have to beat Bilstein in a very short time (6 minutes for 2 out of 3 rounds, I believe), but if you do beat him, you get to see the characters' true endings...nothing fancy, just a character portrait and some text, but the content is good!
How do you get to Super Bilstein? And for that matter, the other two hidden characters (I know there in there, somewhere).
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2)How old is Ele?
I dunno! Keep in mind that she's from the future!
Well, that much I did know. How far in the future is she from though? And what was the condition of the Earth Federation and the Fourht Empire in her future?
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There's more to this, but it'll be answered when you ask me about Black Hayato!
Ok, then! Tell me about Black Hayato and his relation to Hayato and June.
8) What are the stories for the robots (I forgot both of their names, but they play similar to each other and have the beam moves), Byakko, the girl with the freeze plasma field, Blood, and Shaker?
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The 4th Empire Robots:
Vector is the mass production model, not much of a story.
Omega is the prototype model, had "flaws" in his logic circuits (kept asking stuff like "What is heart?")
Yep...a Tin Man!
So, is the Vector from PS the exact same one that was in SG?
Byakko:
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He's part of an Earth Federation team of super human (genetically engineered?) special operations soldiers, he was sent to Zeta to kill each and every Plasma used because they can all be used in Bilstein's super plasma weapon, the "Space End"
So, Byakko's a good guy? Funny, I was always under the impression that he was a bad guy...
Some questions regarding endings:
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
1) First of all, how do I know the difference between a bad and good ending? All of the characters I've beaten it with I've only seen one ending for. And, by my count, does that mean that each character has 4 different endings (a bad and good ending for each characters regular boss, and a bad and good ending for Super Bilstein)?
End of Spoiler
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2) In Zelkin's ending it looks like Zelkin's a bad guy-turned-good-guy. Am I correct on this? Also, what's his relation to Hayato and that bird guy (the one dressed like a bird that plays like Zelkin)?
End of Spoiler
Also, how about some background info on Gantetsu?
Who else was in this floating prison besides Zelkin and Bilstein? And why the heck was Zelkin there? Could you tell me as much as you know about Zelkin? He's freakin' awesome, and is my favorite SG/PS character so far! In fact I'd like to have an avatar of him...
And a comment: I'm really disappointed oh how almost all of new characters are basically palette swaps of the returning characters with a couple of new supers. That's both pointless and lazy. Why couldn't the new characters have more original playstyles? This game would have been off the coolness charts if that were the case...
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| whitesword 659th Post
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| "Re(1):More SG/PS questions for Whitesword" , posted Wed 1 May 17:53
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How do you get to Super Bilstein? And for that matter, the other two hidden characters (I know there in there, somewhere).
Er...I guess I should have made myself clearer, Super Bilstein is ONLY in Star Gladiator Episode 1 (and you got to him by beating Bilstein under a certain time limit)
As for Rai-On and Kaede, you have to fight them and beat them so that they'd be unlocked (remember to save!)...anyway, to fight them you should:
Finish at least 2 rounds with Perfect wins.
Finish at least 3 rounds with a Plasma Strike win.
Finish at least 1 round with a Plasma Field win.
Don't get any Time Out finishes.
Don't continue (you can still lose a round, though)
ALL before stage 4!
Or...you can try these!
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Well, that much I did know. How far in the future is she from though? And what was the condition of the Earth Federation and the Fourht Empire in her future?
How far? Can't tell...
The Earth Federation and the Fourth Empire? Well, I don't think the Fourth Empire exists at that time, but I do know this...June takes Ele to visit Planet DeRosa and Gamof (DeRosa's his planet) to visit her old friend and show Ele DeRosa's natural beauty (Apparently, nature is no more on Earth..)
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There's more to this, but it'll be answered when you ask me about Black Hayato!
Ok, then! Tell me about Black Hayato and his relation to Hayato and June.
Black Hayato is not simply an "evil Hayato" he's got his own memories and personality, hates others, and wants to be free from Hayato.
I don't think you've played Xenogears, but just in case...this HUGE Xenogears spoiler will explain it much better! (avoid it at ALL cost if you haven't played Xenogears and finished disc 1! Seriously!)
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Hayato = Fei
Black Hayato = Id!
End of Spoiler
Anyway, Black Hayato was actually created by Bilstein (I'm guessing Hayato was one of the ones Bilstein experimented on, cause he's an orphan, and B.Hayato & Blood seem to recognize each other..)
He's probably trying to kill June to sever Hayato's link with the real world!
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So, is the Vector from PS the exact same one that was in SG?
They look exactly the same, but the one in PS is a new version, 3 times as strong as the original.
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Byakko:
He's part of an Earth Federation team of super human (genetically engineered?) special operations soldiers, he was sent to Zeta to kill each and every Plasma used because they can all be used in Bilstein's super plasma weapon, the "Space End"
So, Byakko's a good guy? Funny, I was always under the impression that he was a bad guy...
Um, the Earth Federation were trying to kill each and EVERY Plasma user, including Hayato and his friends!
But, Byakko's a good guy, he's just a soldier that follows his orders...until he and Rai-On had er...an argument!
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Some questions regarding endings:
How's asking about the difference between good and bad endings a spoiler? Anyway, in Plasma Sword, you get the good ending when you fight "A New Challenger!" pretty easy for most characters, now as for SG...that's a different story!
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Also, how about some background info on Gantetsu?
Gantetsu's an old fashioned soldier, I believe he's the only one in the group he leads that doesn't use Plasma weapons, which would explain why he's the only one to survive Byakko's attack.
When he fights Bilstein, Dr. Edward mentions something about Gantetsu having the "same green type plasma", I'm not sure what he's refering to, but Blood's hand glowed with a strange green color after he executes his Plasma Strike in SG1 (it could also be a reference to Hayato?)
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Who else was in this floating prison besides Zelkin and Bilstein? And why the heck was Zelkin there? Could you tell me as much as you know about Zelkin? He's freakin' awesome, and is my favorite SG/PS character so far! In fact I'd like to have an avatar of him...
Zelkin was either the leader of his planet's military and their greatest hero. The Klondyke (or Krondyke, his race) were at war with the Earth Federation. The Klondyke were losing and many of their soldiers were captured. Zelkin then made a decision, he made a deal with the Earth Federation to surrender himself in exchange for his soldiers' freedom and to end the war.
Zelkin was placed in the planet Zeta prison, and news of his death was leaked out by the Earth Federation (so they can keep him there as long as they wanted and so they can stop worrying about daring Klondyke rescue attempts!) But when Bilstein breaks out, he frees Zelkin with him, who in turn is motivated by his pride and honor to join the Fourth Empire to repay Bilstein.
Later he realizes Bilstein is spoony, helps Hayato and friends, and surrenders himself to them, but they realize that he's a good guy and let him go...and that's why he's helping them in Plasma Sword, to repay their favor!
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And a comment: I'm really disappointed oh how almost all of new characters are basically palette swaps of the returning characters with a couple of new supers. That's both pointless and lazy. Why couldn't the new characters have more original playstyles? This game would have been off the coolness charts if that were the case...
Yes, that's spoony, but I don't mind it for the most part, and hey! If it'll make you feel better, Kaede and Rai-On play very differently than Rain and Byakko!
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| Iron D 1663th Post
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| "Re(2):More SG/PS questions for Whitesword" , posted Thu 2 May 13:37
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As for Rai-On and Kaede, you have to fight them and beat them so that they'd be unlocked (remember to save!)...anyway, to fight them you should:
Finish at least 2 rounds with Perfect wins.
Finish at least 3 rounds with a Plasma Strike win.
Finish at least 1 round with a Plasma Field win.
Don't get any Time Out finishes.
Don't continue (you can still lose a round, though)
ALL before stage 4!
Or...you can try these!
Sweeeeeeeeet!
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I don't think you've played Xenogears, but just in case...this HUGE Xenogears spoiler will explain it much better! (avoid it at ALL cost if you haven't played Xenogears and finished disc 1! Seriously!)
Yep, I've played Xenogears. I didn't beat it, in fact I didn't even get halfway through the game, but I was told by someone that Id was Fei. I see the connection though.
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Zelkin was either the leader of his planet's military and their greatest hero. The Klondyke (or Krondyke, his race) were at war with the Earth Federation. The Klondyke were losing and many of their soldiers were captured. Zelkin then made a decision, he made a deal with the Earth Federation to surrender himself in exchange for his soldiers' freedom and to end the war.
Zelkin was placed in the planet Zeta prison, and news of his death was leaked out by the Earth Federation (so they can keep him there as long as they wanted and so they can stop worrying about daring Klondyke rescue attempts!) But when Bilstein breaks out, he frees Zelkin with him, who in turn is motivated by his pride and honor to join the Fourth Empire to repay Bilstein.
Later he realizes Bilstein is spoony, helps Hayato and friends, and surrenders himself to them, but they realize that he's a good guy and let him go...and that's why he's helping them in Plasma Sword, to repay their favor!
That is soooooo awesome!
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Yes, that's spoony, but I don't mind it for the most part, and hey! If it'll make you feel better, Kaede and Rai-On play very differently than Rain and Byakko!
Hmmm...that's cool. I'll try and....earn*snicker* them and see what they're like. That's all the questions I have for now, but don't be surprised if I come at you with more questions in the future! Thanks a lot, Whitesword! For both the avatar and the answers to my questions!
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| Ezehordren
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Rare Customer
| "erm.. TEKKEN OBVIOUSLY!" , posted Thu 2 May 16:24
a) TEKKEN - The story begins....
A worldwide martial arts competition was announced, the "Tekken" or Iron Fist
tournament. A large purse of prize money, which was to be awarded to thefighter
who could defeat Heihachi Mishima in the final round provided incentive for
warriors from all over the globe to enter.
Financed and sponsored by the giant financial groups, the Mishima Zaibatsu
(Financial Empire) - of which Heihachi was the head of - the first Tekken
tournament began with sixteen fighters, all with different motives for entering
the championship.
* Paul Phoenix - American Judo fighter, in the tournament to prove he is the
best fighter of all.
* Kazuya Mishima - Son of Heihachi, a karate champ intent on taking over the
old man's business empire.
* Michelle Chang - Native American fist fighter. Heihachi's men trashed her
village and killed her father, she seeks revenge.
* Nina Williams - Irish assassin and master of Hapkido. Out to kill Kazuya.
* Marshall Law - The Jeet Kune Do master, out to win the title.
* King - Mysterious Mexican wrestler, who hides under a jaguar mask.
* Yoshimitsu - Ninja warrior out to earn big prize money.
* Jack - Russian Cyborg sent by the Russians to kill Heihachi
* Kuma - a big bear who hates Paul
* Ganryu - dishonourable sumo hired by Heihachi.
* Anna Williams - another Hapkido fighter, and arch rival to her sister.
* Lee Chaolan - Heihachi's adopted son. Master of JKD and karate.
* Wang Jinery - Old Chinese man, friend to Heihachi's father.
* Kunimitsu - Rival of Yoshimitsu and also a master ninja. After Michelles
ancestral treasure.* Amour King - Kings mentor and sparring partner.
* P.Jack - Heihachi's Jack Cyborg, in the tournament to take out Jack.
Many battles were fought. But only one warrior emerged with the right to
challenge Heihachi Mishima for the title King of the Iron Fists. This warrior
was Kazuya Mishima, Heihachi's long lost son. Bearing the scar across his chest
given to him by Heihachi, he enters into vicious combat with his father on the
same field where Heihachi had struck down his own son and dropped him over a
cliff at the age of eight.
After a gruelling battle, which raged on for hours, Kazuya emerged victorious.
His skill augmented by the power of the devil he accepted inside him at an
early age. As Heihachi's broken body lay on the ground, Kazuya dropped to his
knees and slowly lifted his father into his arms. Walked slowly to the edge of
the same cliff where his father had left him to die, he gently let go of his
father's body. As Heihachi's body plummeted out of sight, Kazuya's smile
gleamed in the sunlight...
b) TEKKEN 2 - Heihachi's Revenge
One year has passed. The Mishima Zaibatsu (conglomerate) under Kazuya's
leadership has become even more powerful with its tendrils reaching to all
corners of the world. Soon after his father's apparent death, Kazuya disappears
into the shadows. However, rumours of his immense power, and a dark side,
slowly begin to spread throughout the world.
Exactly one year after the end of the first Tekken, a message is relayed from
the Mishima Zaibatsu fortress to news agencies all over the world announcing a
second tournament with a prize a thousand times that of the first.
So begins the tournament... all the previous fighters had returned and were
joined by some new faces.
* Lei Wulong - Hong Kong Cop on the trail of Bruce Irvin. Lei is a skilled Kung
Fu fighter and has a huge array of moves.
* Jun Kazama - Bushido fighter sent to investigate the Mishima Corporation.
* Baek Do San - Tae Kwon Do fighter sent by Kazuya to trash Marshall's dojo.
* Bruce Irvin - Corrupt cop and kick-boxing champion.
* Roger and Alex - A boxing kangaroo and dinosaur.
* Devil/Angel - the manifestations of the light and dark sides of Kazuya'snature
The King of Iron Fist Tournament 2 Draws to a close. Jun Kazama comes to the
stunning realization that Kazuya's supernatural strength stems from Devil. But
she cannot help being drawn to him, propelled by a mystic force beyond her
control [hmm]. Several days later, the final challenger arrives to face Kazuya,
the organizer of the King of Iron Fist Tournament 2. It's Heihachi.
In a reprise of the first Tekken Tournament, the father and son clash in a
vicious battle. Eventually, Heihachi emerges scarred but victorious to regain
control of the immense Mishima Conglomerate. Unaware of Devil's presence,
Heihachi casts the lifeless Kazuya into a fiery volcano.
c) TEKKEN 3 - The Next Generation
As Kazuya's body burns, the Devil appears before the pregnant Jun Kazama in a
bid to enter the soul of the new life beating within her. But in a desperate
struggle for the future of her child, Jun defeats Devil and retires to desolate
Yakushima to raise Kazuya's son, Jin, alone.
Having regained control of the Mishima Conglomerate, Heihachi sets about to
further increase his powers. He embarks on a crusade to win the trust of world
leaders by putting wars and conflicts to rest. Using his immeasurable wealth,
he forms Tekkenshu, a mercenary group employed to quell conflicts efficiently.
He also takes a strong interest in the well being of developing nations by
helping them build agricultural systems that will sustain them. Through
Heihachi's efforts, the world appears to be regaining peace.
Around fifteen years have passed and Jin Kazama is now 15 years old.
Under Heihachi's orders, the Tekkenshu (Tekken Force) are excavating a Central
American archaeological site when they discover a mysterious life form.
Heihachi orders the creature's capture, but loses contact with the Tekkenshu
after a garbled radio message, "... they are all dead... Toshin (Fighting
God)?!..."
Upon arriving at the dig, Heihachi finds a field of corpses. Heihachi is
wracked by sorrow, but also realizes that the power of the mysterious life form
could be the key to his long dormant dream of world domination. To obtain this
mysterious power of Toshin (Ogre), and the world, Heihachi tempts the fates
once again...
Within weeks, strange disappearances occur throughout the world. Persons of
strong soul, masters of martial arts and other derivative fighting disciplines
are reported missing... with no knowledge of their whereabouts. Baek Do-San,
King, Lee Chaolan and Wang Jinery are just some of the fighters who have
disappeared.
Jin Kazama is now a young man of 15. Though he and his mother Jun live
peacefully in the mountains, her intuition warns of impending danger. She tells
Jin of a tremendous power seeking their lives. Jun explains the story of his
father, grandfather and the Tekken Tournaments. Fearful of the future she
tells Jin to go to Heihachi if anything should happen to her.
One dark and stormy night, Jun's fears are proved correct. Ogre comes to the
mountains on a chill wind. The last thing Jin hears before losing
consciousness are his mothers words.. "Run, run far away!".
Next morning Jin wakes up in the wreckage of their house. Everything is burned
up and Jun is nowhere to be found. Jun has died at Ogre's hands. Honouring her
instructions, Jin goes to Heihachi and begs to be trained in order exact
revenge. Heihachi, hearing Jin's tale, is convinced that Ogre is after the
souls of powerful fighters. To attract Ogre, Heihachi decides to host the King
of Iron Fist Tournament 3.
Four years later, on Jin Kazama's 19th birthday, the curtains rise for the King
of Iron Fist Tournament 3. Heihachi decides to use him as bait to entice out
Ogre so he could then use a pendant owned by Michelle Chang to control it.
(Michelle had recently disappeared on a visit to Heihachi).
Old names Nina and Anna reappear after having been frozen by scientist Dr. B.
They awaken 19 years later still in their early twenties, Nina now missing her
memory. Paul Phoenix and Lei Wulong, both in their forties also return tosettle
old scores. Yoshimitsu is out for Ogres blood to help Dr. B cure himself, but
the rest of the cast is made up a unfamiliar faces.
* Jin Kazama - Karate fighter and son of Kazuya and Jun. After revenge for his
mothers death.
* Hwoarang - Student of Baek, a Tae Kwon Do fighter out to avenge his master
and get back at Jin who beat him in a fight.
* Julia Chang - Adopted daughter of Michelle, out to investigate her mothers
disappearance.* Kuma 2 - Son of the original Kuma who also hates Paul.
* Ling Xiaoyu - Barmy 16 year old Chinese master of Wu Shu. Heihachi will build
her a theme park if she wins.
* Eddy Gordo - Brazilian Capoeira fighter. Suspects the Mishima corporation may
help him find out who killed his dad.
* King 2 - Orphan raised by the original King, out to avenge his death.
* Gon - Stumpy little dragon out to prove it's toughness.
* Forest Law - son of Marshall. Out to win some cash and glory
* Gun Jack - combination of Jack 2 and P.Jack. Jane wants to find his human
program so Gun Jack enters the tournament to get it.
* Bryan Fury - Undead police Officer. Being chased down by Lei, he was killed
then bought back to life by Doctor Abel. Under Dr. Abels command he is
targeting Yoshmitsu.
* Mokujin - a training dummy come to life. Its motives are unknown.
* Dr Boskonovitch - Ethically dubious scientist out to retrieve Ogres blood to
cure his daughter and himself. Froze Nina and Anna after Tekken 2.
* Ogre - the god of fighting who transforms into True Ogre as the final boss.
Jin Kazama defeats Heihachi and then destroys Ogre and True Ogre. Angry that
Ogre had been destroyed Heihachi gunned down Jin. Unfortunately this triggered
the emergence of the diabolical powers of his father Kazuya. Sprouting wings
he transformed into a devil and flew away...leaving Heihachi to reflect on his
failure
d) TEKKEN 4 - Kazuya is back.. again
Two years ago, Heihachi failed to capture Ogre.
Not willing to give up, Heihachi ordered his researchers to collect blood
samples, skin tissue, and hoof fragments left behind by Ogre (known as True
Ogre in its true manifestation) in order to conduct genetic experiments.
Heihachi's goal was to create a new life form by splicing Ogre's genome with
his own. However, the research was unsuccessful.
After extensive experimentation, Heihachi's bioengineers came to the conclusion
that an additional gene - the Devil Gene - was necessary in order to
successfully splice Ogre's genetic code into another living organism. Heihachi
learned that his own genome lacked the Devil Gene, but he knew someone who
did...Jin Kazama.Jin's whereabouts were unknown after the events of Tekken 3.
Heihachi searched for Jin to no avail. However, Heihachi discovered a
photograph during his investigation that stirred his curiosity. The 20-year-old
photograph was an image of a burnt corpse covered with laceration wounds.
Heihachi paid particular attention to the corpse's back, which had what looked
like deformed, protruding wing-like limbs.
Convinced that the picture was of Kazuya, his own son whom he threw into a
volcano 20 years ago, Heihachi diverted all his resources into a search for the
body. This search eventually led Heihachi to G Corporation, a leading-edge
biotech firm making unprecedented advances in the field of biogeneticsresearch.
Heihachi discovered that G Corporation found the corpse and extracted and
analysed its genetic data. In fact, Heihachi learned that the company was in
the midst of creating a new life form by using the data. Heihachi also
determined that Kazuya's remains and research data were secured at G
Corporation's Nebraska and Nepal research laboratories, respectively.
Friday, 25 December. The Tekken Force raided G Corporation's maximum-security
research laboratory in Nepal. The bottom floors of the building were
obliterated, and the remaining data storage facility containing file servers
was airlifted by a group of heavy-duty helicopters.
At the same time, a separate unit led by Heihachi infiltrated the underground
research facility in Nebraska, where Kazuya's remains were preserved. As
Heihachi observed from his helicopter, he soon realized that unlike the Nepal
facility, the operations in Nebraska were not going according to plan. The
tactical status monitor screens showed the first wave of the Tekken Force
troops being blown out from the storage room where Kazuya's remains were
supposedly kept.
A silhouette of a large figure slowly emerged from the room... When Heihachi
could see clearly enough, he instantly recognized the large figure as Kazuya.
Kazuya was resurrected in G Corporation's research facility. After his
resurrection, Kazuya offered his body as research material to determine the
true nature of the Devil that resided within him. Kazuya's goal was to unify
his two selves into one. Kazuya theorized that if he unified his body with the
Devil, he would be able to truly harness its powers. He could then finally take
revenge against Heihachi and the Mishima Zaibatsu (Financial Empire).
Enraged that Heihachi thwarted his plans, Kazuya obliterated the heavily armed
Tekken Force and vanished into the flames of the lab's wreckage. Heihachi was
infuriated by Kazuya's escape and took out his anger on his hapless
subordinates who reported the escape.
Dr. Abel, now Heihachi's lead scientific advisor, urged the enraged Heihachi to
quickly find a way to capture Kazuya. Once his anger subsided, Heihachi focused
his mind and decided on a plan. An evil smile crept upon his lips.
Two years had passed since The King of Iron Fist Tournament 3.
The Mishima Zaibatsu announced The King of Iron Fist Tournament 4 and placed
the massive financial empire as the top prize. The champion who manages to
defeat Heihachi at the end of the Tournament would inherit the MishimaZaibatsu.
Well aware that the tournament is just a trap designed to lure him out, Kazuya
nevertheless enters - it is his chance to defeat Heihachi...
"No sir! I didn`t like it!"
Mr. Horse & Ezehordren favorite quote.
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