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| Hungrywolf 562th Post
 
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|  "Rurouni Kenshin battles....."
, posted Tue 2 Apr 19:51
Ok, this is the deal, which I think will be kinda cool. Next Tues. in my public speaking class I am going to give an informative speech about anime and manga, which pretty much 99% of the class knows nothing about. Anyway, my teacher suggested that when I do it I have visual aids to compare american and japanese comics and that I show some footage....well, I immediately thought, Kenshin! (I thought about showing a clip from somehing else too, but I changed my mind). Anyway, I can only show a couple of short clips. So, I'm definately showing
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when Kenshin leaves Tokyo to go to Kyoto and Kaoru is crying.
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also, I want to show one of the fights Kenshin has...(I won't get to show all of it though :( ). So, which fight should I show? I have all the DVDs up until the most recent release (Son of God), so please, Kenshin fans, give me your feedback and help me decide!
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| Hungrywolf 564th Post
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| "Re(2):Rurouni Kenshin battles....." , posted Tue 2 Apr 20:53
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OK as a kenshin fan I will help as much as I can.
hmmm... you want a good battle?
for me the best battle are :
I think these are the best , as I think , oo and please don't show any part of the stroy , just show action!!!
no one will accept a sotry (I tried to show shishio fight to my friend he liked the fight but when they start to talk he was sleeping!! so skip the story!!
and GOOD LUCK.
Well, I am trying to show how you can't judge all anime by "popular" anime like DBZ. I know DBZ isn't just about fighting (I'm a DBZ fan) but mainly it is. I am showing that scene with Kenshin and Kaoru to show that the series has more depth. If your friend can only appreciate the fighting in Kenshin, than well, he sucks. he he. just kidding, i don't want to be harsh, but Rurouni Kenshin is deeper than that. Oh, and BTW, that guy you didn't remember is Chou (Sounds like Joe). anyway, I was actually thinking about
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the fight that Kenshin and Aoshi had when Kenshin was making is way to the fight with Shishio. I love that fight...plus I won't be able to show a lot, and there is way too much in the Kenshin and Shishio fight. That fight with Kenshin and Saito before Kenshin left for Kyoto might be good though, I'll see what everyone else thinks would be best though.
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| Juke Joint Jezebel 261th Post
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|  "Re(7):Rurouni Kenshin battles....."
, posted Fri 5 Apr 01:30
man i'm really glad you're gonna show that scene you're gonna show, hungrywolf. it was really, really beautiful. i think i almost cried..
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..just seeing kaoru react to kenshin's words. and when he held her and it depicted a beautiful japan night with the fireflies and cherry blossoms (wait, were there cherry blossoms? hehe, maybe) .. it was just all fucking beautiful. even afterwards, when she was depressed because kenshin was gone. seeing her in that state almost brought tears
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(bah, i don't mind admitting these things. anime and games, especially rpgs, tend to jerk your emotions around)
anyways, it's been too long since i've seen any of the kenshin series to remember a good fight scene. also, i think i left off on an early episode of 30 or something similar 
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it was a couple of episodes after that goodbye night scene, and he met the weasel girl. ah, i forgot her name
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but how about the ova? (ova or oav? i've seen it both ways. hm) there was a scene that .. ooh, almost forgot ..
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it was night time (again) and .. god, i forgot their names. anyways, these guys were invading. i just remember one of them meets kenshin again in the series. anyways, they ambush another group in that tower or two-story building and they cut the lights off so that the ambushers won't get total advantage, and as they're both waiting to strike, that firefly flies by and lights up a sword and the battle begins. after that short battle, it shows kenshin protecting tomoe from the guys from the same clan and one of them loosely says "i am some guy from the something clan and i use the something style" and kenshin returns with something like "you will die" and he charges into battle
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i swear to god, every time i hear "The War of the Last Wolves," i think of that battle scene and my adrenaline starts running. i thought it was beautifully done, but then..
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..you might have to explain the difference between tomoe and kaoru to the class. that might be a bit tough
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on a side note, very cool you're using kenshin for a presentation in a class! i wrote a paper on Baiken once. every chance i get, i use games and animes in my papers and assignments. maybe i can use the whole Meiji era in my next essay! i've been thinking of a topic for it
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| Hungrywolf 588th Post
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| "Re(8):Rurouni Kenshin battles....." , posted Fri 5 Apr 08:35
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man i'm really glad you're gonna show that scene you're gonna show, hungrywolf. it was really, really beautiful. i think i almost cried..
(bah, i don't mind admitting these things. anime and games, especially rpgs, tend to jerk your emotions around)
anyways, it's been too long since i've seen any of the kenshin series to remember a good fight scene. also, i think i left off on an early episode of 30 or something similar
but how about the ova? (ova or oav? i've seen it both ways. hm) there was a scene that .. ooh, almost forgot ..
i swear to god, every time i hear "The War of the Last Wolves," i think of that battle scene and my adrenaline starts running. i thought it was beautifully done, but then..
on a side note, very cool you're using kenshin for a presentation in a class! i wrote a paper on Baiken once. every chance i get, i use games and animes in my papers and assignments. maybe i can use the whole Meiji era in my next essay! i've been thinking of a topic for it
Well, it's an anime presentation, not a Kenshin presentation, but I'm only showing a couple of Kenshin clips, one to show action and one to show drama....and JJJ, that dramatic scene always brings a tear to my eye when
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Kaoru is bent over crying...
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The OVA is good, but I'm not gonna show any fight scene from it since, well, if I did, it is so incredibly bloody. Someone mentioned the fight with Saito and I do think that is really good, but I also really like his fight with Aoshi in the library. Anyway, yeah, Ninjabastard, that fight on the most recent release Kenshin DVD was good between
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him and the "son of God" guy.
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| "Re(10):Rurouni Kenshin battles....." , posted Sat 6 Apr 18:25
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Sorry, but I find any battle where the characters yell out the names of the attacks to be cheesy...
well, duh. Of course it is.
But I don't think that's the point of the topic :P
Personally, using kenshin as substitue for "popular anime such as DBZ" might not be the best choice. Kenshin is hardly an unpopular minor series.
Of course, it all depends on what you want the audience to see. the OVA's style may have a wider appeal when showing it to non-anime literate american class audience.
To anime fans, kenshin may not be "cheesy". But put yourself in non-anime fan and look at it objectively. It's cheesy as hell, just like most any media we geeks love. And yes, that includes fighting games, and Terry's powerwave. (^_-)
If I was to show anime for mass appeal to, say, a room full of film student, I would pick something like Grave of Fireflies, or Wings of Honeamise.
As much as I like shounen manga based anime, I wouldn't pick it for a class showing :)
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| Hungrywolf 611th Post
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| "Re(2):Re(10):Rurouni Kenshin battles....." , posted Sat 6 Apr 19:24
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Sorry, but I find any battle where the characters yell out the names of the attacks to be cheesy...
well, duh. Of course it is.
But I don't think that's the point of the topic :P
Personally, using kenshin as substitue for "popular anime such as DBZ" might not be the best choice. Kenshin is hardly an unpopular minor series.
Of course, it all depends on what you want the audience to see. the OVA's style may have a wider appeal when showing it to non-anime literate american class audience.
To anime fans, kenshin may not be "cheesy". But put yourself in non-anime fan and look at it objectively. It's cheesy as hell, just like most any media we geeks love. And yes, that includes fighting games, and Terry's powerwave. (^_-)
If I was to show anime for mass appeal to, say, a room full of film student, I would pick something like Grave of Fireflies, or Wings of Honeamise.
As much as I like shounen manga based anime, I wouldn't pick it for a class showing :)
Geez, it's not like I'm showing an actual episode, just a clip. The speech is supposed to teach the class somthing that 75% of them don't know much or anything about and 95% of the class doesn't know that much about anime and manga, and what they do know IS Dragonball Z and others that have been on American TV, so I am teaching them about all the other different stuff. The clip is just for example of style anyway. Most of the presentation is me talking...I am going to personally show them examples of manga compared to US comics and show different types, like Slayers, RoLW, Oh my Goddess, and Cannon God Exxaxion. So please, understand what I am doing, and why I'm showing them something they know NOTHING about.
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Rurouni Kenshin battles....." , posted Sat 6 Apr 20:50
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I am going to personally show them examples of manga compared to US comics and show different types, like Slayers, RoLW, Oh my Goddess, and Cannon God Exxaxion. So please, understand what I am doing, and why I'm showing them something they know NOTHING about.
I think those selections may be a bit one-ended. If you want to show diversity of anime, a more variety of diffrent types of shows would be appropriate, in my humble opinion.
With what's available in US, my selections of clips would be Lupin III Castle of Cagliostro for action adventure type, witch you can also use to show some history of anime back in the late 70s.
Gundam is my next pick, as one of the most influential anime series of all time, and also good example of mech/war stories that represents one of the largest genre of anime. Gundam set off a huge robot/war boom that lasted almost a decade, spinning out dozens of clones in the 1980s.
I would also show some magical girl shows as example of shoujo (lower age group) anime, and romance anime as older shoujo anime genre. I guess Fushigi Yuugi would be a good pick for the latter.
As for shounen anime in the action/adventure likes of DBZ, I guess Rurouni Kenshin would be a good pick.
Of course, you can't leave out the most popular anime genre of all, the sit-com types like Sazae-san. =)
The selections you picked would represent anime in the "american pop-culture" way, but it wouldn't represent anime as a whole very well.
If you mean to showcase in the former way, I apologize.
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| Hungrywolf 619th Post
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| "Re(4):Re(10):Rurouni Kenshin battles....." , posted Sun 7 Apr 10:30
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I am going to personally show them examples of manga compared to US comics and show different types, like Slayers, RoLW, Oh my Goddess, and Cannon God Exxaxion. So please, understand what I am doing, and why I'm showing them something they know NOTHING about.
I think those selections may be a bit one-ended. If you want to show diversity of anime, a more variety of diffrent types of shows would be appropriate, in my humble opinion.
With what's available in US, my selections of clips would be Lupin III Castle of Cagliostro for action adventure type, witch you can also use to show some history of anime back in the late 70s.
Gundam is my next pick, as one of the most influential anime series of all time, and also good example of mech/war stories that represents one of the largest genre of anime. Gundam set off a huge robot/war boom that lasted almost a decade, spinning out dozens of clones in the 1980s.
I would also show some magical girl shows as example of shoujo (lower age group) anime, and romance anime as older shoujo anime genre. I guess Fushigi Yuugi would be a good pick for the latter.
As for shounen anime in the action/adventure likes of DBZ, I guess Rurouni Kenshin would be a good pick.
Of course, you can't leave out the most popular anime genre of all, the sit-com types like Sazae-san. =)
The selections you picked would represent anime in the "american pop-culture" way, but it wouldn't represent anime as a whole very well.
If you mean to showcase in the former way, I apologize.
It's a 10 min. presentation, I can only show 2 min. of clips max (which are included in the 10 min.) and I don't want to even waste two whole min. cause I'll have a lot to talk about. Since this is supposed to be a way to get them interested in anime/manga, i don't think it'd be good to show clips from shows from the 70's. I think it's better to show some newer stuff. I'm trying to keep the Kenshin clips down to a min. and maybe 30 sec. of another anime, which will be a different type than Kenshin. Thank you for your input though. 
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