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Neo Rasa
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"KoF fans who own a Dreamcast, READ. NOW." , posted Mon 1 Apr 16:44:

http://www.snkneogeo.co.jp/consumer/consumer.html

KoF2K ~~~~~~ Dreamcast

Fact.

May 24th.

Reserve a copy now.

Edit:

FYI, my friend and I may have misread something about the date, KoF2K on DC is true, but that May 24th may be for that rerelease of LB2 that never materialized last year.

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[this message was edited by Neo Rasa on Mon 1 Apr 16:47]

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Neo Rasa
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"Re(1):KoF fans who own a Dreamcast, READ. NO" , posted Mon 1 Apr 17:38

So no one here both likes the Dreamcast and the King of Fighters series? No wonder Dream Match 1999 flopped. :p

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Freeter

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"Re(2):KoF fans who own a Dreamcast, READ. NO" , posted Mon 1 Apr 17:45

quote:
So no one here both likes the Dreamcast and the King of Fighters series? No wonder Dream Match 1999 flopped. :p

Already commented on it. See the "behold" topic.

Can't wait for this, 2K is right behind 98 as my favorite KOF.

pointystick

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"Re(3):KoF fans who own a Dreamcast, READ. NO" , posted Mon 1 Apr 17:49:

Oh, if it is true, I'm all over that shit. I'll be watching NCSX very closely.

Where did the May 24 date come from? I can't see any such date on Playmore's page.

[this message was edited by pointystick on Mon 1 Apr 18:43]

Rugie
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"Re(1):KoF fans who own a Dreamcast, READ. NO" , posted Mon 1 Apr 19:23

quote:
http://www.snkneogeo.co.jp/consumer/consumer.html

KoF2K ~~~~~~ Dreamcast

Fact.

May 24th.

Reserve a copy now.

Crap. And I already just bought a NeoGeo and the KOF2K cartridge in order to play it. If I'd only been patient another month.

"You want some of the this green glowy stuff? Do you?"

dorikyasu

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"May isn't summer..." , posted Mon 1 Apr 19:30

quote:
Crap. And I already just bought a NeoGeo and the KOF2K cartridge in order to play it. If I'd only been patient another month.

Not to worry. It says DC KOF2K is coming "Summer this year", not next month. (unless Playmore considers the month of May as a part of summer months, that is.)

Besides, as good as DC version might turn out to be, if I had a choice, I'd rather have original NeoGeo cart version than usual less than perfect ports....

Freeter

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"Re(1):May isn't summer..." , posted Mon 1 Apr 19:31

quote:
Besides, as good as DC version might turn out to be, if I had a choice, I'd rather have original NeoGeo cart version than usual less than perfect ports....

If I could afford a Neogeo cart I'd agree

RugalBernstein

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"Re(2):KoF fans who own a Dreamcast, READ. NO" , posted Mon 1 Apr 19:35

Be glad you did! They're much more collectible, and fun to own! ^_^

dorikyasu

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"Re(2):May isn't summer..." , posted Mon 1 Apr 19:36:

quote:
If I could afford a Neogeo cart I'd agree

I know the feeling... When I look back now, I don't know how I used to buy all those NeoGeo carts I own. (total of 13 NG carts ending with KOF'98)
My friends used to call me crazy and I somehow justified each purchase, but now I think of it, they might have been right. While there's pretty much no way I'll ever do the same again, I don't regret buying them one bit still.

[this message was edited by dorikyasu on Mon 1 Apr 19:48]

RugalBernstein

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"Re(3):May isn't summer..." , posted Mon 1 Apr 19:39

Hey, be proud of yourself! At least you supported the system! And if you consider yourself a collector, there's nothing wrong with that. ^_^

Shin ATproof
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"Re(4):May isn't summer..." , posted Mon 1 Apr 20:30

I have a Neo Geo(with some KoF games) but for systems like the DC the game are better than the Neo Geo. There are more extras and the soundtrack is arranged...AWESOME! I am glad I waited for a home version...but yeah...May isn't summer...at least I don't think it is...it doesn't matter...I got nearly infinite patience...I can wait for another year and STILL be just as happy.

ZamIAm

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"Re(5):May isn't summer..." , posted Mon 1 Apr 20:45

In movies and software, May is often considered part of the summer season.

Looks like I need to get off my poor behind and finally buy a DC-X...

"End of Line."

RugalBernstein

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"Re(5):May isn't summer..." , posted Mon 1 Apr 20:45

Actually, remember, the Dreamcast version of Gekka no Kenshi 2 did NOT have the arranged sound track.. but I sincerely hope they use the arranged 2000 sound track in it... Slasher Zero is excellent arranged!! ^_^

Fro Boy11

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"Re(3):KoF fans who own a Dreamcast, READ. NO" , posted Mon 1 Apr 20:50

quote:
So no one here both likes the Dreamcast and the King of Fighters series? No wonder Dream Match 1999 flopped. :p

Already commented on it. See the "behold" topic.

Can't wait for this, 2K is right behind 98 as my favorite KOF.

Great news!! Man this day has been full of fighting game news. Although one of them was an april fools joke. The other stuff is good too. I hope they put a English language thingie in there so I can read it.

pointystick

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"Re(4):KoF fans who own a Dreamcast, READ. NO" , posted Mon 1 Apr 22:04

What?? NCSX says it's an April Fool's joke. I don't want to believe them...

Fuchikoma
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"Re(5):KoF fans who own a Dreamcast, READ. NO" , posted Mon 1 Apr 22:08

It's no joke, it was up on the page well before April 1rst. I hope that the MOTW and LB2 re-releases fix the sound effects problems... those annoyed the hell out of me.

dorikyasu

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"port?" , posted Mon 1 Apr 22:43:

quote:
I have a Neo Geo(with some KoF games) but for systems like the DC the game are better than the Neo Geo

Oh boy, if it was few years ago when NeoGeo was at its prime, a lot of people would have disagreed with you to no end, but times have changed...
While DC is so much more powerful than NeoGeo therefore it should be able to emulate NeoGeo games perfectly, to this date I still haven't seen a NG to DC port with 100% of gameplay intact.
Sure, they do have some great extras over original, but when your favorite combo doesn't work on it (whether due to change in timing or sprite size, etc.), is it really can be considered better?
I guess it all depends on personal preferences...
Btw, I'm not bashing DC in any form. I LOVE my DC. Would I own 2 of them and (way too many) games for them if I didn't?

[this message was edited by dorikyasu on Mon 1 Apr 22:51]

Shin ATproof
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"Re(1):port" , posted Mon 1 Apr 22:51

quote:
I have a Neo Geo(with some KoF games) but for systems like the DC the game are better than the Neo Geo
Oh boy, if it was few years ago when NeoGeo was at its prime, a lot of people would have disagreed with you (including myself), but times have changed...
While DC is so much more powerful than NeoGeo therefore it should be able to emulate NeoGeo games perfectly, to this date I still haven't seen a NG to DC port with 100% of gameplay intact.
Sure, they do have some great extras over original, but when your favorite combo doesn't work on it (whether due to change in timing or sprite size, etc.), is it really can be considered better?
I guess it all depends on personal preferences.

Btw, I'm not bashing DC in any form. I LOVE my DC (why would I own 2 of them and hundreds of games for them if I didn't?).

Dunno about you but all my combos seem to work pretty fine...I have seen some strange things happen in Last Blade:Final Edition but in games such as KoF99DM or KoF99Evo my 80-100%'s seem to work just fine.

I mean it isn't like SFZ3 inconsistencies...some of the "fun stuff" with characters like Vega and V-ism combos are iffy compared to the Aracade version(I heard upper got rid of those things)however I see many of those changes as my friend puts it lightly "balance"

tweleve
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"Re(1):port?" , posted Tue 2 Apr 11:01

quote:
I have a Neo Geo(with some KoF games) but for systems like the DC the game are better than the Neo Geo
Oh boy, if it was few years ago when NeoGeo was at its prime, a lot of people would have disagreed with you to no end, but times have changed...
While DC is so much more powerful than NeoGeo therefore it should be able to emulate NeoGeo games perfectly, to this date I still haven't seen a NG to DC port with 100% of gameplay intact.
Sure, they do have some great extras over original, but when your favorite combo doesn't work on it (whether due to change in timing or sprite size, etc.), is it really can be considered better?
I guess it all depends on personal preferences...
Btw, I'm not bashing DC in any form. I LOVE my DC. Would I own 2 of them and (way too many) games for them if I didn't?

Come to think of it, have you seen a perfect Neo-Geo port to any console other than the Neo AES? Maybe it's SNK's policy not to do perfect conversions to foreign consoles.

Then again, there does seem to be a mismatch between the resolutions of the Neo and the DC, just like CPS2 and DC. That's why sprites are smaller and backgrounds are 3-D, I'd wager. Capcom went for smaller sprites and stretched backgrounds for CPS2 conversions instead of 3-D backgrounds.

Thankfully, I think the DC was designed to match the then alive CPS3, which produced the best set of games.

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pointystick

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"Re(2):port?" , posted Tue 2 Apr 14:42

quote:
I have a Neo Geo(with some KoF games) but for systems like the DC the game are better than the Neo Geo
Oh boy, if it was few years ago when NeoGeo was at its prime, a lot of people would have disagreed with you to no end, but times have changed...
While DC is so much more powerful than NeoGeo therefore it should be able to emulate NeoGeo games perfectly, to this date I still haven't seen a NG to DC port with 100% of gameplay intact.
Sure, they do have some great extras over original, but when your favorite combo doesn't work on it (whether due to change in timing or sprite size, etc.), is it really can be considered better?
I guess it all depends on personal preferences...
Btw, I'm not bashing DC in any form. I LOVE my DC. Would I own 2 of them and (way too many) games for them if I didn't?

Come to think of it, have you seen a perfect Neo-Geo port to any console other than the Neo AES? Maybe it's SNK's policy not to do perfect conversions to foreign consoles.

Then again, there does seem to be a mismatch between the resolutions of the Neo and the DC, just like CPS2 and DC. That's why sprites are smaller and backgrounds are 3-D, I'd wager. Capcom went for smaller sprites and stretched backgrounds for CPS2 conversions instead of 3-D backgrounds.

Thankfully, I think the DC was designed to match the then alive CPS3, which produced the best set of games.

As far as I can tell, Gekka no Kenshi Final Edition is the best MVS-DC conversion. The only thing that bugs me is the color dithering. Anyone know why that was necessary?

Neo Rasa
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"Re(3):port?" , posted Tue 2 Apr 15:11

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As far as I can tell, Gekka no Kenshi Final Edition is the best MVS-DC conversion. The only thing that bugs me is the color dithering. Anyone know why that was necessary?

Well that's actually not an MVS port at all, but a port of the NeoCD version. :D

I think the dithering is a result of resolution differences between the Neo Geo and DC hardware. Basically the character sprites can be either slightly smaller than they should be (as it has been on all console ports) or they can be normal size but extra pixelly. I think after that alteration the backgrounds have to be messed with so that everything still seems in proportion and the linear zooming effect from the Neo hardware that allows the constant smooth scaling of the characters and background probably had some trouble making the transition perfectly. I just wish that flame effect from the Wadamaya Mansion stage made it to the NeoCD/etc. ports, it just LOOKED so damn hot! Like they had the entire background scaling in a contsant small vertical wave like you were looking at a real fire. O_O;

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talbaineric

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"Re(4):port?" , posted Tue 2 Apr 17:20

I would rather have some sort of package that includes 94-97 with improved gameplay.

Oh,well,might as well wish I had Elizabeth Hurley for a wife.

Freeter

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"Re(5):port?" , posted Tue 2 Apr 17:31

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I would rather have some sort of package that includes 94-97 with improved gameplay.

It already exists. It's called KOF98.

Rugie
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"Re(1):May isn't summer..." , posted Tue 2 Apr 17:37

quote:
Crap. And I already just bought a NeoGeo and the KOF2K cartridge in order to play it. If I'd only been patient another month.

Not to worry. It says DC KOF2K is coming "Summer this year", not next month. (unless Playmore considers the month of May as a part of summer months, that is.)

Besides, as good as DC version might turn out to be, if I had a choice, I'd rather have original NeoGeo cart version than usual less than perfect ports....

Well, if they do release a port of KOF2K to the DC, I'll probably get that too. If I buy at least one of the other games I've always wanted (like a Samurai Spirits or Fatal Fury game) that I can't find for the Saturn, it will justify my purchase. As much a KOF fanatic as I am, I can at least now say I have a NeoGeo to boot.

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bootation
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"Re(2):May isn't summer..." , posted Tue 2 Apr 18:56

Wow this is a great thread. Dude I disagree with that dude who says that ports are better than the original neo geo. I mean the neo geo pad is really cool. The dreamcast pad is cool but i would rather have the neo geo control pad.

I dont understand why they dont put the characters in High-Res neoragex style. Maybe they dont want to outdo the cart. I mean with the technology available on dc it should look more like guilty gear x. All of capcoms ports are more accurate.

Playmore is a great company for supporting the dc this late in the game. Im really excited for this game. In response to that one dude saying the combos arent intact i agree cuz some of the kensou and robert combos in kof 99 for dc arent there. Boy some of the stages that they have are amazing on the kof dc ports. For instance the Train stage in kof 98' and the airplane stage in kof 99. The rest of the levels kinda suck tho besides those. You know what would be ultra sweet would be if they took advantage of the modem on the dc in kof 2k.

Shin ATproof
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"Re(6):port?" , posted Tue 2 Apr 19:16

quote:
I would rather have some sort of package that includes 94-97 with improved gameplay.

It already exists. It's called KOF98.

Nah...98 was basically KoF97 minus most of the gamebreaking combos and moves plus all the best tracks from the past games minus an actual story.

Freeter

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"Re(7):port?" , posted Tue 2 Apr 19:20

quote:
Nah...98 was basically KoF97 minus most of the gamebreaking combos and moves plus all the best tracks from the past games minus an actual story.

If it was basically 97 the controls would be crap

Shin ATproof
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"Re(8):port?" , posted Tue 2 Apr 19:23

quote:
Nah...98 was basically KoF97 minus most of the gamebreaking combos and moves plus all the best tracks from the past games minus an actual story.

If it was basically 97 the controls would be crap

Damn what KoF97 did you play? The one's I own are all pretty damn responsive...

Hungrywolf

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"Re(9):port?" , posted Tue 2 Apr 19:27

quote:
Nah...98 was basically KoF97 minus most of the gamebreaking combos and moves plus all the best tracks from the past games minus an actual story.

If it was basically 97 the controls would be crap

Damn what KoF97 did you play? The one's I own are all pretty damn responsive...

Um, Actually, didn't 98 have characters 97 didn't?

Professor

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"KOF 95, AOF stage." , posted Wed 3 Apr 11:10:

Just in case for people who didn't notice my short comment--

Click Here

And no, it's *not* an April fools joke.

FF-Eeerk! *Gasp*

[this message was edited by Professor on Wed 3 Apr 11:14]

dorikyasu

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"Re(1):KOF 95, AOF stage." , posted Wed 3 Apr 11:21

quote:
Just in case for people who didn't notice my short comment--

Click Here

And no, it's *not* an April fools joke.

So the rumors of DC KOF2K having some of the old stages were actually true...
I wonder if they've added '94 Japan stage, which happens to be my fav. KOF stage of all time.

Jazzie D

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"Re(1):KOF 95, AOF stage." , posted Wed 3 Apr 13:34

quote:
Just in case for people who didn't notice my short comment--

Click Here

And no, it's *not* an April fools joke.

Nani?

There...there...there is a scene in the DC port of KoF 2000 in which K and fight in the Ryuko no Ken stage of KoF '95? And this is no joke either? I wonder if it has either Japan stage in '96.

RugalBernstein

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"Re(2):KOF 95, AOF stage." , posted Wed 3 Apr 14:22

How strange... well, most of the older KOF game's stages are far superiour to 2000's, so I don't think this is really a bad idea...

Juan

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"Re(3):KOF 95, AOF stage." , posted Wed 3 Apr 14:59:

I love the kyokugen dojo, they better still have the elevator going up on the first seconds of the round.

Hopefully they will bring some of the 96-97 backgrounds, since tournaments are supposed to be held on arenas and not on a dumpster with a garbage truck breaking through the background! (i guess nests doesnt really have as much money as orochi or rugal to host their evil tournaments in decent places.)

quote:
How strange... well, most of the older KOF game's stages are far superiour to 2000's, so I don't think this is really a bad idea...

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