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Hungrywolf

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"Final Fantasy VII, oh and Eric!" , posted Mon 1 Apr 14:28

I figured I'd go ahead and cover both of these rather than just start a topic to say ERIC, WHY'S YOUR SITE DOWN??? Ok, that having been said, on to my Final Fantasy VII statement. I was talking to a couple of guys at school today and for some reason we started talking about Final Fantasy games and he was saying something about how 8 was stupid and the card game was dumb (I liked it) and some other stuff and was saying how good FFVII was. Anyway, I don't like Final Fantasy VII and I equated it with watching Neon Genesis Evangelion. Of course he had no idea what I meant, but I meant because of how they both ended, it left me with little satisfaction and ruined the whole experience. Anyhow, does anyone else feel this way about FF VII or Evangelion?

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Jazzie D

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"Re(1):Final Fantasy VII, oh and Eric!" , posted Mon 1 Apr 14:42

quote:
I figured I'd go ahead and cover both of these rather than just start a topic to say ERIC, WHY'S YOUR SITE DOWN??? Ok, that having been said, on to my Final Fantasy VII statement. I was talking to a couple of guys at school today and for some reason we started talking about Final Fantasy games and he was saying something about how 8 was stupid and the card game was dumb (I liked it) and some other stuff and was saying how good FFVII was. Anyway, I don't like Final Fantasy VII and I equated it with watching Neon Genesis Evangelion. Of course he had no idea what I meant, but I meant because of how they both ended, it left me with little satisfaction and ruined the whole experience. Anyhow, does anyone else feel this way about FF VII or Evangelion?

I'm sorry, but I liked VII and Eva. VIII to be honest was kind of a let down for me. VII would get like a 9/10 and I said this in Gamefaqs - VIII got 6/10. I liked the card game, but it's a turn off to many. People said that the card game wasn't helpful, but you would be surprised actually. Nice looking game, but many of the elements hampered the game a lot.

Dragon-warrior
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"Re(1):Final Fantasy VII, oh and Eric!" , posted Mon 1 Apr 14:45

call me sick but I love them Both (Of course I hated the end of evangelion, I don't count the Moive as a end to the Great series, so I tricked my slf and say it do not exist!)
just becuase the moive sux so much!
FF7 wasn't that bad?
FF7 is maybe the best FF on the PS.
and the end is as all the games and animes (well most of them)
the Hero is Invinsible and MUST win!
it you are saying it is unfair to win, the part which I hate most in the FF series *Gaia save the Humans from doom or what ever it is*

and about the thing that annoys me it is about Kenshin!

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Why did shishio Die he should win! Shishio is the most impressve enemy ever! who remembers the Krain Gaina!

End of Spoiler

Iron D

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"Cait Sith fan #1!" , posted Mon 1 Apr 14:45

Personally, FFVII's ending is one of my favorite endings ever. Sure, there's a lot of unaswered questions, but it was a good ending, IMO. So many minigames, such lovable characters (the FFVII cast may be my favorite cast of any FF), and Sephiroth is still the best FF villain.

Oh, and BTW, I absolutely LOVED FFVIII as well. I don't think it deserves the bad rap that everyone always gives it.

Hungrywolf

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"Re(2):Final Fantasy VII, oh and Eric!" , posted Mon 1 Apr 15:00

quote:
call me sick but I love them Both (Of course I hated the end of evangelion, I don't count the Moive as a end to the Great series, so I tricked my slf and say it do not exist!)
just becuase the moive sux so much!
FF7 wasn't that bad?
FF7 is maybe the best FF on the PS.
and the end is as all the games and animes (well most of them)
the Hero is Invinsible and MUST win!
it you are saying it is unfair to win, the part which I hate most in the FF series *Gaia save the Humans from doom or what ever it is*

and about the thing that annoys me it is about Kenshin!

Yeah Iron D, FF VIII does get a bad rap, but Dragon Warrior I thought IX was the best PSx Final Fantasy (VI was the best overall) and...

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Didn't everyone die in the ending of FF VII, and before that, Cloud finds out he's a clone and the story just got weird and it kinda sucked at the end....and Shishio deserved what he got, he was crazy, and I would feel sorry for Yumi if she didn't enjoy Shishio killing her to get to Kenshin....I love Kenshin and Kaoru....

End of Spoiler

Dragon-warrior
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"FF6 on N64" , posted Mon 1 Apr 15:06:

Iron D I still think Kefka makes the Best Villain ever! he is so evil!(sephiroth is cool) but sorry Kefka owns all the villains.
of course FF6 is the best and most imperssive FF EVER Created!
did anyone saw the FFVI on the N64 beta moives?
they are some were there, I will put the link shortly.

[this message was edited by Dragon-warrior on Mon 1 Apr 15:07]

talbaineric

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"Re(1):FF6 on N64" , posted Mon 1 Apr 15:16

Is my site down? I'll have to go check.

Hungrywolf

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"Re(1):FF6 on N64" , posted Mon 1 Apr 15:21

quote:
Iron D I still think Kefka makes the Best Villain ever! he is so evil!(sephiroth is cool) but sorry Kefka owns all the villains.
of course FF6 is the best and most imperssive FF EVER Created!
did anyone saw the FFVI on the N64 beta moives?
they are some were there, I will put the link shortly.

I saw the beta pics of FFVI on the N64...of course everyone I've seen post those pics on message boards claims it was gonna be the next final fantasy on the n64, but it is easy to tell the characters are terra and Locke (and some others). I figure they were seeing what they could do with the hardware. In any case, I'd love to see movies of it...

talbaineric

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"Re(2):FF6 on N64" , posted Mon 1 Apr 15:37

Works fine now,Hungrywolf. I'm planning to update sometime this week with new pics in the English Files gallery.

Iron D

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"Re(1):FF6 on N64" , posted Mon 1 Apr 17:41

quote:
Iron D I still think Kefka makes the Best Villain ever! he is so evil!(sephiroth is cool) but sorry Kefka owns all the villains.
of course FF6 is the best and most imperssive FF EVER Created!
did anyone saw the FFVI on the N64 beta moives?
they are some were there, I will put the link shortly.

Hey, I've got nothin' against Kefka, he's awesome. But Sephiroth, this guy is just EVIL. And intimidating to boot.

I saw those N64 FF6 thigamajigs. At the time I wasn't a big FF fan, so I didn't understand the importance of them. Oh, what a fool I was. Of course, N64 never got FF, PS did. So I guess it wasn't that bad.

Rid Hershel

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"Re(1):Final Fantasy VII, oh and Eric!" , posted Mon 1 Apr 18:07

There's nothing worng about the FF7 endiing IMHO...

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
They never said that everyone died, remember the kid voices after the titles? maybe the humanity survived, they just don't say it.

End of Spoiler

Sometimes a surprising ending is better than nothing

(Macross Plus and Cowboy Bebop spoilers down here)

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Bebop has maybe the most surprising end ever, a very sad one, by the way, but I really enjoyed that one, poor Spike dying like that...
And in Macross Plus, the way the OVA's (not the movie) end, it's so open and beautiful... (and Voices is such a great theme!!!).

End of Spoiler

Shin ATproof
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"Re(2):Final Fantasy VII, oh and Eric!" , posted Mon 1 Apr 20:39

I personally thought that FF7 was more of an experience rather than a good game...it was basically a hardware test by Square. The story sucked but the game overall was kinda fun. I personally think the best Final Fantasy on the PSX(minus the re-released games)was FF8. Yeah I like the story more(less plotholes and such) the cast was endearing and less cliched like the one's in 7 and FF8 allowed nearly full customization of the characters. It eliminated necessary evils such as armor and I liked the ability to upgrade my weapons...instead of buying new gear or earning it I was able to work with what I had available. Also I found the battle system one of the few that makes you do more than simply select an action and wait for the results. All in all I think FF8 is severely underrated by many...and I will never fully understand why. [shrugs]

oh and to me...the best Final Fantasy is FF6. Why? Damn near everything was fantastic AND I am willing to argue it has the most memorable scenes in a Final Fantasy...ever. Seriously you can ask most FF fans what is the favorite scene in a Final Fantasy and most people find it easier to remember stuff from FF6 than anything else.

ONSLAUGHT

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"Well..." , posted Mon 1 Apr 21:05

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oh and to me...the best Final Fantasy is FF6. Why? Damn near everything was fantastic AND I am willing to argue it has the most memorable scenes in a Final Fantasy...ever. Seriously you can ask most FF fans what is the favorite scene in a Final Fantasy and most people find it easier to remember stuff from FF6 than anything else.

Yeah, I agree entirely, I liked FF VIII a lot, and I don't see why people hate it... It had one of the best customization options in any FF...
This is the order of the FF in my book

5.- FF VIII
4.- FF IX
3.- FF VII
2.- FF X
1.- FF VI

Even when FF VIII is at the bottom of my list, I love it! I really love FF VIII, and seeing how everyone hate it makes me sad...

But the best FF EVER is FF VI! Such a masterpiece, a game made with the heart, everything was so touching, so amazing, so cool, so emotive, so impressive! Yeah, a game made with the heart definitely!

Dragon-warrior
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"as promised!!!!" , posted Mon 1 Apr 22:39

this is the link the moive page(the moives are in the button of the page!)
http://members.aol.com/mips36/square.htm
and this is the main site:(if you wana take a look) :P
http://members.aol.com/mips36/index.html
enjoy them

Hungrywolf

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"Re(1):as promised!!!!" , posted Tue 2 Apr 13:26

quote:
this is the link the moive page(the moives are in the button of the page!)
http://members.aol.com/mips36/square.htm
and this is the main site:(if you wana take a look) :P
http://members.aol.com/mips36/index.html
enjoy them

Thanks!

Dragon-warrior
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"no problemo!" , posted Tue 2 Apr 14:02

have fun
and tell me what do you think? :P
I think Square could make this a smash hit if it was released , but so sad the series went to sony!
and now they return back to Nintendo!
I hope they will make the remake for the GCn

Hungrywolf

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"Re(1):no problemo!" , posted Tue 2 Apr 18:22

quote:

have fun
and tell me what do you think? :P
I think Square could make this a smash hit if it was released , but so sad the series went to sony!
and now they return back to Nintendo!
I hope they will make the remake for the GCn

A remake of FFVI on the GCN would be so incredibly awesome. It is the BEST of the FF series, after all, in my opinion (and lots of other people's too). In any case, I doubt the remake would ever be made....in reality, if I could have any Final Fantasy remade, I would want the first one remade. I would like the characters to stay unnamed and just classified by class, that would be more fun. I'd still have the characters "transform" after getting the rat tail, and I would make an awesome ending and tweek the storyline some.... (he he, what if it had an 8-bit theatre storyline? But I meant to keep the same SL and just work on it some.) Adding in some FMVs would be nice too. And there wouldn't be any summons!