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| Just One Fix
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|  "Professor - a question/request"
, posted Mon 25 Mar 07:30
For as long as I've been visiting MadMan's Cafe, (about 2 years or so - yeah, I'm a pretty hardcore lurker  ) the site takes forever to load - I've recently clocked it at about 7-8 minutes. But not only does it take forever to load, it locks up my browser the entire time it's loading, so I can't go visit other sites (or do pretty much anything with my browser) until the main page is finished loading.
So here's my request - would it be possible for you to make a "MMCafe Lite" - a page with the news updates in text only? I know you're very busy, but all you would really have to do is cut and paste the news text. Besides, I figure I'm not the only person this happens to (am I?), and it would be soooo helpful.
Anyway, please reply if you need more information, (what browser I'm using, my connection speed, my OS, etc.) and thank you for your time Professor!
P.S. - I seem to remeber a while back, you posted a message saying that you use a "wysiwyg" HTML editor to do site updates, and I know those add a lot of unnecessary crap to HTML code... could that be what's 'causing my problem?
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| "Re(1):Professor - a question/request" , posted Mon 25 Mar 08:27:
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For as long as I've been visiting MadMan's Cafe, (about 2 years or so - yeah, I'm a pretty hardcore lurker ) the site takes forever to load - I've recently clocked it at about 7-8 minutes. But not only does it take forever to load, it locks up my browser the entire time it's loading, so I can't go visit other sites (or do pretty much anything with my browser) until the main page is finished loading.
So here's my request - would it be possible for you to make a "MMCafe Lite" - a page with the news updates in text only? I know you're very busy, but all you would really have to do is cut and paste the news text. Besides, I figure I'm not the only person this happens to (am I?), and it would be soooo helpful.
Anyway, please reply if you need more information, (what browser I'm using, my connection speed, my OS, etc.) and thank you for your time Professor!
P.S. - I seem to remeber a while back, you posted a message saying that you use a "wysiwyg" HTML editor to do site updates, and I know those add a lot of unnecessary crap to HTML code... could that be what's 'causing my problem?
Hi, Just One Fix! I think I know why this is happening for you.
I'm assuming that you use Netscape 4.x, since the site loads with no lock-up on IE or Opera. The reason why the page locks isn't due to the use of a WYSIWYG editor. As you said, it does leave unneeded tags, but that's not what's causing it.
MMCafe uses a lot of tables, nested into each other. They're assigned width value by "percentage" instead of "pixels", so that users with high resolution won't be left with a small screen when they check the site.
However, Netscape 4.x has problems with nested tables which use percentages. For each table nested, the browser takes about 10 times the speed to generate it on the screen. Since my site probably uses somewhere around 40-60 tables per page, this would be a nightmare on Netscape 4.x.
I used to be a Netscape4.x user, and the site was much more friendlier for the Browser until about a year after NS6 came out. I finally gave up on its future for three reasons:
1- Netscape 4.x is based on the Netscape 2.0 engine. It's quite outdated.
2- Netscape 6.x has already come out, which was *suppsoed* to replace Netscape 4.x. However, it wasn't exactly great, and nobody's using it. But going back to 4.x is going back into the past.
3- The total visitors of this site using Netscape(2.x, 3.x, 4.x, 6.x all combined) is under 1%. It's a bit unbelieveable since the rate used to be around 10% just 1-2 years back, but things started changing in the past year.
I really don't wish to create a text version of the site for multiple reasons. I can understand the problem would be quite annoying, but hope it won't stop you from visiting the site.
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