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ZamIAm

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"The Name "Balrog"" , posted Tue 12 Mar 09:58

Vega's Japanese name is Balrog as we know but that doesn't even sound remotely Spanish, right? I found what a Balrog is: http://home7.swipnet.se/~w-70531/Tolkien/balrog/main.htm

Capcom's been taking naming tips from Miyamoto, it seems

Green eggs and ham? Does the health department know about this???

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Iron D

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"Re(1):The Name" , posted Tue 12 Mar 10:20

Yeah, I knew that. I still think it's unfitting to give that name to the ninja. I mean, Balrogs are typically ugly things, and Vega (Spaniard) prides himself on his beauty. Plus "Vega" just naturally sounds more spanish than "Balrog".

ONSLAUGHT

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"I got paid!!" , posted Tue 12 Mar 10:21:

quote:
Vega's Japanese name is Balrog as we know but that doesn't even sound remotely Spanish, right? I found what a Balrog is: http://home7.swipnet.se/~w-70531/Tolkien/balrog/main.htm

Capcom's been taking naming tips from Miyamoto, it seems

I think that american names for SF characters make much more sense than the japanese ones...
According to that, a balrog is a big monster with huge strenght, just as the boxer we all love to hate!
And as for Vega, well, I think most of you don't know this, but Vega is a VERY common spaniard sur name, that's why I think american names makes so much more sense.
Plus, I love how M.Bison sounds on our loved Psycho Crusha guy, and I prefer Akuma than Gouki... I don't know why, but Gouki sounds kinda weak for me...

[this message was edited by ONSLAUGHT on Tue 12 Mar 10:22]

pointystick

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"Re(1):I got paid!!" , posted Tue 12 Mar 10:48

I think Gouki discribes him better. I guess it would only be that way for Japanese speakers. As for the rest, Vega sounds like a much more fitting head villain name than M. Bison.

Chupiler

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"Re(2):I got paid!!" , posted Tue 12 Mar 11:11

I think that the Japanese name make more sense, especially with Bison being in the first SF.

Still, you shouldn't really argue about names other than Japanese or American, since those are the only 2 that Japanese people have a good sense of naming. Lawrence Blood doesn't sound very Spanish to me, and Angel is a bit off, etc.

ONSLAUGHT

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"Re(3):I got paid!!" , posted Tue 12 Mar 11:15

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Angel is a bit off, etc.

Angel from KoF?? Well, she's Mexican after all, but I've never seen a girl over here called Angel... The right name must be Angela or Angeles... Angel is a male name...

Time Mage
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"Re(3):I got paid!!" , posted Tue 12 Mar 11:17

quote:
I think that the Japanese name make more sense, especially with Bison being in the first SF.

Still, you shouldn't really argue about names other than Japanese or American, since those are the only 2 that Japanese people have a good sense of naming. Lawrence Blood doesn't sound very Spanish to me, and Angel is a bit off, etc.

Isn't Laurence Blood German?

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Juan

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"ay!" , posted Tue 12 Mar 11:17:

Lawrece Blood = LORENZO SANGGRRREEEEEE!!!!!

Angel (an-hell) makes perfect sense since thats the way you pronounce it on spanish, so at least they got it right.

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Still, you shouldn't really argue about names other than Japanese or American, since those are the only 2 that Japanese people have a good sense of naming. Lawrence Blood doesn't sound very Spanish to me, and Angel is a bit off, etc.

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[this message was edited by Juan on Tue 12 Mar 11:18]

BlackNinjaVinny
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"Re(1):ay!" , posted Tue 12 Mar 12:07

Well, I think of it like this. If you grew up playing these games pronouncing the American names for those characters, then you're going to think they sound better. If you played the games with the Japanese names, you're going to think they're better. It's just how the mind work's I guess :)

Iron D

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"Re(2):ay!" , posted Tue 12 Mar 14:23

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Well, I think of it like this. If you grew up playing these games pronouncing the American names for those characters, then you're going to think they sound better. If you played the games with the Japanese names, you're going to think they're better. It's just how the mind work's I guess :)

I agree. That pretty much sums up what I think on the subject.

Fygee
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"Re(1):ay!" , posted Tue 12 Mar 14:39

quote:
Lawrece Blood = LORENZO SANGGRRREEEEEE!!!!!

Angel (an-hell) makes perfect sense since thats the way you pronounce it on spanish, so at least they got it right.

Still, you shouldn't really argue about names other than Japanese or American, since those are the only 2 that Japanese people have a good sense of naming. Lawrence Blood doesn't sound very Spanish to me, and Angel is a bit off, etc.

I thought the j was silent in the spanish language, not the g. :p

Lawrence Blood is German, not Spanish.

American names for the SF2 trio make much more sense. A Balrog, as previously stated, is a large, strong, ugly monster, something that the quick, scrawny, handsome Spanish ninja is not, and the large Tyson wannabe is. M. Bison seems to be more fitting for Psycho Freako for some odd reason. He doesn't look too much like a "Vega" to me, even though the name seems much more sinister.

ONSLAUGHT

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"Re(2):ay!" , posted Tue 12 Mar 14:41

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I thought the j was silent in the spanish language, not the g. :p

Well, the only silent letter in spanish is the h. Everything else has a sound

Juan

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"Re(2):ay!" , posted Tue 12 Mar 14:46:

The letter G can sound like an spanish j or h, for example "gelatina" (jell-o, gelatin) is pronounced "hellatina." But words like guero, guapo, gorro, galleta, *PINGUINO* are pronounced like a regular G. Hope that makes sense. Grammar sucks! wooohhh!!

quote:
Lawrece Blood = LORENZO SANGGRRREEEEEE!!!!!

Angel (an-hell) makes perfect sense since thats the way you pronounce it on spanish, so at least they got it right.

Still, you shouldn't really argue about names other than Japanese or American, since those are the only 2 that Japanese people have a good sense of naming. Lawrence Blood doesn't sound very Spanish to me, and Angel is a bit off, etc.

I thought the j was silent in the spanish language, not the g. :p

Lawrence Blood is German, not Spanish.

American names for the SF2 trio make much more sense. A Balrog, as previously stated, is a large, strong, ugly monster, something that the quick, scrawny, handsome Spanish ninja is not, and the large Tyson wannabe is. M. Bison seems to be more fitting for Psycho Freako for some odd reason. He doesn't look too much like a "Vega" to me, even though the name seems much more sinister.

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[this message was edited by Juan on Tue 12 Mar 14:48]

RugalBernstein

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"Re(1):The Name" , posted Tue 12 Mar 19:37:

I prefer the Japanese names, myself. Mike Bison is...well... a boxer's name. I find it hard to look at a guy named " Mike " as a major source of evil. Also, as for " Vega " being a common Spanish surname... I thought this Vega was Thai? -_- Besides, I thought " Balrog " was only a nickname... his real name was something like " Fabio De La Cuerva " .
Also, the name " Balrog " comes from Tolkien literature, I.E., the Lord of the Rings... surprised nobody mentioned this.

[this message was edited by RugalBernstein on Tue 12 Mar 19:41]

Dominus

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"Re(2):The Name" , posted Tue 12 Mar 21:30

Tolkien got "Balrog" from "Baal-rog" - a servant of the ancient Semitic god Baal (mentioned in the Bible as a demonic god, although pretty much any other god in the Bible was considered demonic)
Just a historical footnote.