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| Rid Hershel 1909th Post
 
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|  "videogames... not as good as time ago?"
, posted Thu 28 Feb 09:51
Everyone is complaining about videogames losing their quality these days... Do you really think that?
Devil May Cry, Xenosaga, Tekken 4, Space Channel 5 part 2, Jet Set Radio Future, KOF2001, GBA's Castlevanias, Sonic Advance and Adventure 2 Battle, Silent Hill 2, Sakura Taisen 4, Megaman Battle Network, Guilty Gear XX, Ace Combat 04, Super Monkey Ball...
Anyone really thinks that these games are bad?
Of course, there are a lot of horrible games out there, but that's only because there are more games! If you can choose which games to buy, yu can find these gems everywhere!
well... that's what I think, at least...
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| Gojira
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| "Re(1):videogames... not as good as time ago?" , posted Fri 1 Mar 12:48:
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Everyone is complaining about videogames losing their quality these days... Do you really think that?
Devil May Cry, Xenosaga, Tekken 4, Space Channel 5 part 2, Jet Set Radio Future, KOF2001, GBA's Castlevanias, Sonic Advance and Adventure 2 Battle, Silent Hill 2, Sakura Taisen 4, Megaman Battle Network, Guilty Gear XX, Ace Combat 04, Super Monkey Ball...
Anyone really thinks that these games are bad?
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See, there's the problem. Look at your list. The only game on there that's even remotely original in and of itself is Super Monkey Ball. If people keep ignoring games that actually have creative design value, instead rewarding sequels and genre rehashes, then games are going to be really stupid and predictable in a few years.
EDIT: I hadn't looked at Dominus' post yet, but now it seems Super Monkey Ball was not exactly original. However, it's trends I'm talking about here. Marble Madness is an extremely old game so nobody could say Sega was following a trend with SMB. You couldn't really say that for any of the other games though.
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| Juan 1399th Post
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| "Re(2):videogames... not as good as time ago?" , posted Fri 1 Mar 13:01
Gojira, check the Miyamoto interview at ign.com, he pretty much has the same ideas on mind about making original games rather than rehashes.
http://cube.ign.com/articles/354/354633p1.html
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Everyone is complaining about videogames losing their quality these days... Do you really think that?
Devil May Cry, Xenosaga, Tekken 4, Space Channel 5 part 2, Jet Set Radio Future, KOF2001, GBA's Castlevanias, Sonic Advance and Adventure 2 Battle, Silent Hill 2, Sakura Taisen 4, Megaman Battle Network, Guilty Gear XX, Ace Combat 04, Super Monkey Ball...
Anyone really thinks that these games are bad?
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See, there's the problem. Look at your list. The only game on there that's even remotely original in and of itself is Super Monkey Ball. If people keep ignoring games that actually have creative design value, instead rewarding sequels and genre rehashes, then games are going to be really stupid and predictable in a few years.
EDIT: I hadn't looked at Dominus' post yet, but now it seems Super Monkey Ball was not exactly original. However, it's trends I'm talking about here. Marble Madness is an extremely old game so nobody could say Sega was following a trend with SMB. You couldn't really say that for any of the other games though.
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Juan sucks!
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| Dominus 388th Post
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| "Re(1):videogames... not as good as time ago?" , posted Thu 28 Feb 19:22
There's just one thing I wanted to point out here, as everyone knows how I feel regarding old vs. new. Every one of the games you cited, save two, are either sequels or spinoffs of older games. Even those two are suspect - Devil May Cry started as a Resident Evil spinoff, and Monkey Ball is in some ways a new, updated version of Marble Madness, although a highly original and entertaining one.
Bigger budgets, better technology, and more advertising all make big games even bigger, and lesser games even smaller in comparison. Things are more complicated now, as I've said before, and one could argue this to be good or bad with equal justification.
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| ONSLAUGHT 1505th Post
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| "Re(1):videogames... not as good as time ago?" , posted Thu 28 Feb 17:29
quote:
" Everyone is complaining about videogames losing their quality these days... Do you really think that?
Devil May Cry, Xenosaga, Tekken 4, Space Channel 5 part 2, Jet Set Radio Future, KOF2001, GBA's Castlevanias, Sonic Advance and Adventure 2 Battle, Silent Hill 2, Sakura Taisen 4, Megaman Battle Network, Guilty Gear XX, Ace Combat 04, Super Monkey Ball...
Anyone really thinks that these games are bad?
Of course, there are a lot of horrible games out there, but that's only because there are more games! If you can choose which games to buy, yu can find these gems everywhere!
well... that's what I think, at least...
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Agreed man, every change is good, no matter what people say...
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| Juan 1388th Post
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| "Re(1):videogames... not as good as time ago?" , posted Thu 28 Feb 13:03
I just want to beat up zombies. Thats all i know!
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" Everyone is complaining about videogames losing their quality these days... Do you really think that?
Devil May Cry, Xenosaga, Tekken 4, Space Channel 5 part 2, Jet Set Radio Future, KOF2001, GBA's Castlevanias, Sonic Advance and Adventure 2 Battle, Silent Hill 2, Sakura Taisen 4, Megaman Battle Network, Guilty Gear XX, Ace Combat 04, Super Monkey Ball...
Anyone really thinks that these games are bad?
Of course, there are a lot of horrible games out there, but that's only because there are more games! If you can choose which games to buy, yu can find these gems everywhere!
well... that's what I think, at least...
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http://www.angelfire.com/tx/carniceria
Juan sucks!
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| Time Mage
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| "Re(1):videogames... not as good as time ago?" , posted Thu 28 Feb 13:00
quote:
" Everyone is complaining about videogames losing their quality these days... Do you really think that?
Devil May Cry, Xenosaga, Tekken 4, Space Channel 5 part 2, Jet Set Radio Future, KOF2001, GBA's Castlevanias, Sonic Advance and Adventure 2 Battle, Silent Hill 2, Sakura Taisen 4, Megaman Battle Network, Guilty Gear XX, Ace Combat 04, Super Monkey Ball...
Anyone really thinks that these games are bad?
Of course, there are a lot of horrible games out there, but that's only because there are more games! If you can choose which games to buy, yu can find these gems everywhere!
well... that's what I think, at least...
"
I think that videogames are good, were good and will be good. Just as anything, the proportion garbage/quality increases as the number of games increases, but if you like videogames, that's not a problem. You will be able to distinguish which games are good, and which aren't. And that's all you need, because nobody obliges you to buy the crap.
So, to sum up, videogames are growing, but still are good!!
Time has come... crash down on the wicked! Meteor!
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| Freeter 1889th Post
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| "cynics." , posted Thu 28 Feb 09:58
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" Everyone is complaining about videogames losing their quality these days... Do you really think that?
Devil May Cry, Xenosaga, Tekken 4, Space Channel 5 part 2, Jet Set Radio Future, KOF2001, GBA's Castlevanias, Sonic Advance and Adventure 2 Battle, Silent Hill 2, Sakura Taisen 4, Megaman Battle Network, Guilty Gear XX, Ace Combat 04, Super Monkey Ball...
Anyone really thinks that these games are bad?
Of course, there are a lot of horrible games out there, but that's only because there are more games! If you can choose which games to buy, yu can find these gems everywhere!
well... that's what I think, at least...
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Anyone who believes that needs to find a new hobby. The gaming scene has changed(well, it has been a decade already  ), but it's still as exciting as it was before.
Remember, SNES and Genesis had their fill of crap also. Even the NES has its pile of garbage.
I look forward to seeing what will happen with the whole Nintendo/Sega/Namco hybrid Triforce. Things look very promising indeed...
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| Gen
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| "Re(1):cynics." , posted Thu 28 Feb 13:10
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" quote:" Everyone is complaining about videogames losing their quality these days... Do you really think that?
Devil May Cry, Xenosaga, Tekken 4, Space Channel 5 part 2, Jet Set Radio Future, KOF2001, GBA's Castlevanias, Sonic Advance and Adventure 2 Battle, Silent Hill 2, Sakura Taisen 4, Megaman Battle Network, Guilty Gear XX, Ace Combat 04, Super Monkey Ball...
Anyone really thinks that these games are bad?"
A friend said that Devil May Cry wasn't good, I haven't played Space Channel 5 but it looks stupid to me, I have played Jet Set Radio and it was stupid, it seems like a waste to move a PS2 Castlevania to Gameboy unless the game wasn't up to PS2 standards to begin with, "survival-horror" games are kinda boring, most of the recent KoFs I've been disappointed with but I will withold judgement on 2001 until I get some more game time in, Super Monkey Ball demo wasn't bad and wasn't great, Guilty Gear is ok, the other games I haven't really seen enough.
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Of course, there are a lot of horrible games out there, but that's only because there are more games!
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Makes sense.
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I've been experiancing a nice trend of only buying really good games lately, and the internet has helped with this.
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well... that's what I think, at least...
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Anyone who believes that needs to find a new hobby. The gaming scene has changed(well, it has been a decade already ), but it's still as exciting as it was before.
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A few decades! "^_^"
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Remember, SNES and Genesis had their fill of crap also. Even the NES has its pile of garbage.
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I would say either the NES or Playstation 1 has the biggest pile of garbage.
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I look forward to seeing what will happen with the whole Nintendo/Sega/Namco hybrid Triforce. Things look very promising indeed...
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God willing Nintendo Sega and Namco will cooperate on their next home system. *holy light appears*
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