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So what do you think? Are the kings about to lose their crown to the peasants? Give me your thoughts.
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" Hmm we all know how important third party companies are to game systems, they can make or break a system (PSX and Saturn for example). As we all know you can't talk about third party companies without mentioning Konami, Capcom and Square. But let me ask, are we starting to see the future of good games not in the hands of the big guys like the old days, but in new, smaller start up companies?

For example, look at Grand Theft Auto. While RockStar games isn't THAT new, it is still small and has never been a big contender, but with 3 unique and great games under their belt in less then a year (GTA 3, Max Payne and State of Emergency. Bungie Software also scored big with Halo, again their not "new" but they used to be nobodies. I am wondering if new blood is taking over.

Now look at the big guys again. First Squaresoft. Square used to be the king of console RPG's but as many like me believe in our own opinions, they have totally become mediocre. The last couple years have been nothing more then concentration on Final Fantasy games with emphasis on the wow factor, i.e pretty graphics and cinema with very little new gameplay ideas. Not to mention their string of dissapointing other sequels such as Legend of Mana, Chrono Cross, Saga Frontier 1/2 etc.

And Capcom, the king of fighters (or SNK is but thats another discussion @_@) While they were known for making constant rehashes of Street Fighter 2 in the early 90's at least they had lots of quality titles on the side too, Strider, 194 whatever, Breath of Fire, Mega Man/X the first and second Resident Evil etc. But now they are back to their old antics, they are bringing out 4, count em' 4 Resident Evil's, a remake of Onimusha 1, yet more Mega Man X's blah blah. How much longer can they milk old titles?

And Konami, Mr. Snatcher and Castlevania. Metal Gear Solid 2 I believe was a dissapointment, the graphics were ok but the plot was kind of weak and no real new gameplay enhancements. As for Castlevania, while they still milk it, at least there is enough gameplay enhancements to make each title semi different from the last one, but still they are relying on sequels also.

So what do you think? Are the kings about to lose their crown to the peasants? Give me your thoughts.
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" quote:" Hmm we all know how important third party companies are to game systems, they can make or break a system (PSX and Saturn for example). As we all know you can't talk about third party companies without mentioning Konami, Capcom and Square. But let me ask, are we starting to see the future of good games not in the hands of the big guys like the old days, but in new, smaller start up companies?

For example, look at Grand Theft Auto. While RockStar games isn't THAT new, it is still small and has never been a big contender, but with 3 unique and great games under their belt in less then a year (GTA 3, Max Payne and State of Emergency. Bungie Software also scored big with Halo, again their not "new" but they used to be nobodies. I am wondering if new blood is taking over.

Now look at the big guys again. First Squaresoft. Square used to be the king of console RPG's but as many like me believe in our own opinions, they have totally become mediocre. The last couple years have been nothing more then concentration on Final Fantasy games with emphasis on the wow factor, i.e pretty graphics and cinema with very little new gameplay ideas. Not to mention their string of dissapointing other sequels such as Legend of Mana, Chrono Cross, Saga Frontier 1/2 etc.

And Capcom, the king of fighters (or SNK is but thats another discussion @_@) While they were known for making constant rehashes of Street Fighter 2 in the early 90's at least they had lots of quality titles on the side too, Strider, 194 whatever, Breath of Fire, Mega Man/X the first and second Resident Evil etc. But now they are back to their old antics, they are bringing out 4, count em' 4 Resident Evil's, a remake of Onimusha 1, yet more Mega Man X's blah blah. How much longer can they milk old titles?

And Konami, Mr. Snatcher and Castlevania. Metal Gear Solid 2 I believe was a dissapointment, the graphics were ok but the plot was kind of weak and no real new gameplay enhancements. As for Castlevania, while they still milk it, at least there is enough gameplay enhancements to make each title semi different from the last one, but still they are relying on sequels also.

So what do you think? Are the kings about to lose their crown to the peasants? Give me your thoughts.
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To tell you the truth, I really don't care as long as the industry is getting better. Every company needs it's "stale" moments so the new guys can step up and show us what they've got, this way we can always be entertained by somebody's new game. Then when the big companies come back with something it's usually when the small companies are still producing games that won't be out for another 2 to 6 months. It's kinda like the winter/summer thing. During the winter companies are producing lawn lowers and barbecue stuff, and backyard simming pools. During the Summer companies are making new coats and different stuff for the coming Winter season. I look at the videogame companies like that. They're all competing, but at the same time they all work together for the consumers. In a way.
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