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| Dr Baghead 639th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):about Tekken movie ...."
, posted Thu 21 Feb 18:50
(just starts ranting)
There are four types of game to movies let's run them down:
Type A: Games have plots?
Examples:
-Super Mario Brothers
-Street Fighter
Discription: When a game becomes popular and a film company wants to cash in with a movie, they should at least research the games plot. One would assume a Mario movie would involve Mario fighting a Dragon named Bowser to save Princess Peach Toadstool and the Mushroom Kingdom, and Street Fighter would detail the events of the Tournament following Ryu's quest... you just keep thinking that because Hollywood thought it would be a lot better to have Luigi fight a human named Koopa to save Dinosaur land/ New York and to have a war movie about Guile
Type B: What's in a name?
Examples:
-Star Comander
-Final Fantasy: the Spirits Within
-Resident Evil
This films throw everything out the window about a game and just use the name to sell tickets. I seem to recall Star Commander the game not being about hot teen stars ripping off Das Boot, and although I've only played one I'm rather sure Final Fantasy is a Fantasy/Sci-Fi world filled with magic and fancy technology not shitty bland future stuff. Resident Evil, though not out yet, has gone on record as prevesously "having nothing to do with the games" and now is a "prequel" [although non-cannon I'd wager] which means aside from someone saying at the END "thanks for saving us, Jill!" or a villian for no good reason named "Albert" it's still worthless
Type C: Maybe the source sucked to begin with
Examples:
-MK: Annilation
-Lara Croft: Tomb Raider
Lara Croft goes on Adventures and saves the world, Mortal Kombat is about earth warriors defeating Outworld warriors... not much to work with, so a movie should be easy to make! WRONG! Unlike games where poor gameplay with a retarded hook (ie;blood, boobies) can mask a thin plot line (which these two examples have both in spades) movies need to have a good plot to keep things movie, especially when they lack the game's hook (MK:A lacked blood, TR wasn't the porno fans expected it to be)
Type D:Hey that wasn't too bad!
-Mortal Kombat
-ummmm... a few animes I guess
-er, did i mention Mortal Kombat?
These movies work rather well... MK is about a fighting tournament, with Shang Tsung and Goro, Liu Kang wins, Sonya hates Kano, Raiden coaches the heros, and Johnny Cage is a movie star.... SAY!!! the movie's about the same things! except for a few minor errors coughSub-ZerocoughScoprioncough it's pretty much true to the game
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| ONSLAUGHT 1455th Post
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| "Unresearched? I don't think so..." , posted Thu 21 Feb 19:05
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and pls include Ling XiaoYu ... ^^;
" Sounds like another crappy unresearched movie. Just like the X-men movie.
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Hey hey hey... We got a problem here, do you say that the X-Men movie was unresearched?
Just because they weren't using the blue and yellow spandex suits? Or maybe because some relationships were altered??
To me, X-Men is the best comic book movie ever (that's until Spidermann the movie that is), and it stays true to the comic.
They mention adamantium, they have the blackbird, they live in Salem Center, Erik and Charles are good friends, the X-Men are trained in the school, but Wolverine not, they fight for a world that hate and fears them, the Xavier ideology about pacific coexistence is there, and Magneto's ideology is there as well...
Sure, there are some things that are not like the comic, but come on, this movie is intended for people that don't know jack about the X-Men. That way, people can understand the "life" of some persons that have been into the comic book scene for more than 30 years...
And the true fans sure enjoyed the little pranks and cameos, did you see Colossus? Pyro? or Henry Peter Gyrich?
Oh well, if that's not true to the comic, I don't know what is...
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| Toxico 1502th Post
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| "Re(1):Unresearched? I don't think so..." , posted Thu 21 Feb 19:16
Hey hey hey... We got a problem here, do you say that the X-Men movie was unresearched?
Just because they weren't using the blue and yellow spandex suits? Or maybe because some relationships were altered??
To me, X-Men is the best comic book movie ever (that's until Spidermann the movie that is), and it stays true to the comic.
They mention adamantium, they have the blackbird, they live in Salem Center, Erik and Charles are good friends, the X-Men are trained in the school, but Wolverine not, they fight for a world that hate and fears them, the Xavier ideology about pacific coexistence is there, and Magneto's ideology is there as well...
Sure, there are some things that are not like the comic, but come on, this movie is intended for people that don't know jack about the X-Men. That way, people can understand the "life" of some persons that have been into the comic book scene for more than 30 years...
And the true fans sure enjoyed the little pranks and cameos, did you see Colossus? Pyro? or Henry Peter Gyrich?
Oh well, if that's not true to the comic, I don't know what is...
Well; yes, X-Men movie showed the basis of the X-men universe and respected many of the relationship on that universe... I did not loved it because it did not showed anything extraordinary or something that I did not knew.... now, if in the second part they experiment with the characters a lot and make something fresh and new; best if it is Movie exclusive that would be a +, and if it has quality, then ++... if they just do another movie with the same basis, same characters and a movie that shows nothing really new and interesting and no any wild turn or anything... then that would be a shame.
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| Freeter 1838th Post
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| "cerebro" , posted Thu 21 Feb 19:14
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Hey hey hey... We got a problem here, do you say that the X-Men movie was unresearched?
Just because they weren't using the blue and yellow spandex suits? Or maybe because some relationships were altered??
To me, X-Men is the best comic book movie ever (that's until Spidermann the movie that is), and it stays true to the comic.
They mention adamantium, they have the blackbird, they live in Salem Center, Erik and Charles are good friends, the X-Men are trained in the school, but Wolverine not, they fight for a world that hate and fears them, the Xavier ideology about pacific coexistence is there, and Magneto's ideology is there as well...
Sure, there are some things that are not like the comic, but come on, this movie is intended for people that don't know jack about the X-Men. That way, people can understand the "life" of some persons that have been into the comic book scene for more than 30 years...
And the true fans sure enjoyed the little pranks and cameos, did you see Colossus? Pyro? or Henry Peter Gyrich?
Oh well, if that's not true to the comic, I don't know what is...
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They did stay true to the comics. There's even an in-joke when they board the plane.
"What were you expecting, yellow spandex?"
Won't make sense unless you know the comics...
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| TheBeast
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| "Re(1):Who plays who?" , posted Thu 21 Feb 08:33
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" quote:"" quote:"I wouldn't be surprised if Paul Phoenix became the main character in the movie, lol.
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Paul Phoenix? Let them get Arnold
Schwarzenegger to play him, Jackie Chan for
Forrest Law, and Chris Tucker for Eddie!
Hmm... Zhang Ziyi as Ling Xiaoyu, Angelina
Jolie as Julia Chang(?), Milla Jovovich as
Nina (???)
BUT...
If the best characters of Tekken aren't in
there: Kuma|Panda, Gon and Dr. BOSCONOVITCH
aren't in there it'll be a crying shame I
tell you, a crying shame.
*prays that Dr. B is the main character,
played by Clint Eastwood*
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Hahaha imagine the budget of adding up the fees of these superstars!!
Personally Hugh Jackman should be OK for Paul...he is quite good as Wolverine in X-man...Get Jet Li to play Forrest Law, and Michelle Yeoh to play Michelle Chang...(haha)
I think Ling Xiaoyu should be less important than Julia to contribute to the original Tekken storyline, so should she be axed instead?
The only antidote to my poison is death...Hey! No fair! You have a resurrection move??
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| Juan 1356th Post
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| "Re(1):Who plays who?" , posted Thu 21 Feb 08:31
I think Arnold would make a good Jack rather than Phoenix.
The creator of Tomb Raider are gonna make this? If thats the case, the movie is already set up for failure.
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" quote:"" quote:"I wouldn't be surprised if Paul Phoenix became the main character in the movie, lol.
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Paul Phoenix? Let them get Arnold
Schwarzenegger to play him, Jackie Chan for
Forrest Law, and Chris Tucker for Eddie!
Hmm... Zhang Ziyi as Ling Xiaoyu, Angelina
Jolie as Julia Chang(?), Milla Jovovich as
Nina (???)
BUT...
If the best characters of Tekken aren't in
there: Kuma|Panda, Gon and Dr. BOSCONOVITCH
aren't in there it'll be a crying shame I
tell you, a crying shame.
*prays that Dr. B is the main character,
played by Clint Eastwood*
"
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/carniceria *Updated mon-friday!*
Juan sucks!
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| Burning Ranger
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| "Don't kill the movie before its made!!!" , posted Fri 22 Feb 11:30
I dont get any of this negativity... really I dont. Let me set the record straight about movies based on games, or movies based on any non-film material.
1) There are VERY FEW films that stay 100% true to the original material. In the case of video game films, Mortal Kombat comes pretty close. Not saying its 100% perfect, but I will explain.
2) There is a little something I like to call 'creative liberty.' In some cases, just seeing a 100% translation of a game on film just seems boring, you can get all that from playing the game. The trick is to make something completely new and unexpected. I think this was behind the premise of Resident Evil, and dont complain if Capcom approved it. Also, I get tired people dissing Super Mario Bros. Sure, it may not be the best movie in the world, but it opened a whole new perspective on how the Mario world could be. Its these "new adaptations that I find absolutely amazing and creative." This also covers storylines from other game-film translations (ex. Mortal Kombat). The exception to the rule is Double Dragon.. man that movie sucked.
3) back to number 1. There is no way a movie will stay 100% true to source material. The reasons of this is many. Take Street Fighter for instance. Since the movie was a vehicle for Van Damme, the story had to be rewritten for him (and the US audience, whom it was aimed for). Thas why Guile became the lead character. Mortal Kombat had no brand name actors, and it would have probably been another b-movie action flick had it not had the words Mortal Kombat in the title.
I guess what I am getting at is that all those rabid fundamentalist fan-boys need to open their eyes and stop blasting something before it comes out.
As for Tekken, I think it can be pulled off, but they need to approach it like they approached Mortal Kombat: no big stars in the lead (maybe in supporting, as in Heichachi being someone famous), and minor changes to the story. As long as the main story is there (example: Kazuya Vs Heichachi, Jin vs Heichachi/Ogre) there shouldn't be any real problem with minor changes.
I still want to see Samo Hung's Soul Calbur movie once it is done.
Ed aka Burning Ranger
- "If you can't beat them arrange to have them beaten." -George Carlin
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