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| DKW
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|  "Count me in."
, posted Mon 18 Feb 22:03
Damn the naysayers. I want a fighting game I can learn, get into, enjoy, and (this is the big one) <i>win</i> on. King of Fighters no longer qualifies; much too high learning curve and too-hard bosses. ('97 was the last one I could consistently beat without cheat codes or "service".) Tekken isn't even close. And the vs. games, for all the "button mashers who beat everybody" nonsense, are actually a lot harder to get <i>good</i> at than most players give them credit for. To Capcom's credit, they at least have begun to realize that not everyone becomes a complete master after two weeks and adjust the difficulty of their games accordingly, but I still miss the simplistic...yes, that's right!...gameplay of Mortal Kombat.
Since this is a console-only game, I don't particularly give a damn what the public perception of the series is. The PS2 (which is what I have right now) has always been a nichey, special-interest console anyway...remember the 5,000 or so sports titles that launched it? And if you don't want to buy, rent, for crying out loud. Geez, am I still the only one doing this? 
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| whitesword 473th Post
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| "Re(1):Count me in." , posted Mon 18 Feb 22:09
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" Damn the naysayers. I want a fighting game I can learn, get into, enjoy, and (this is the big one) <i>win</i> on. King of Fighters no longer qualifies; much too high learning curve and too-hard bosses. ('97 was the last one I could consistently beat without cheat codes or "service".) Tekken isn't even close. And the vs. games, for all the "button mashers who beat everybody" nonsense, are actually a lot harder to get <i>good</i> at than most players give them credit for. To Capcom's credit, they at least have begun to realize that not everyone becomes a complete master after two weeks and adjust the difficulty of their games accordingly, but I still miss the simplistic...yes, that's right!...gameplay of Mortal Kombat.
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So...in other words, you suck, huh?
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| Fro Boy11
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| "Re(2):Count me in." , posted Tue 19 Feb 12:47
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" quote:" Damn the naysayers. I want a fighting game I can learn, get into, enjoy, and (this is the big one) <i>win</i> on. King of Fighters no longer qualifies; much too high learning curve and too-hard bosses. ('97 was the last one I could consistently beat without cheat codes or "service".) Tekken isn't even close. And the vs. games, for all the "button mashers who beat everybody" nonsense, are actually a lot harder to get <i>good</i> at than most players give them credit for. To Capcom's credit, they at least have begun to realize that not everyone becomes a complete master after two weeks and adjust the difficulty of their games accordingly, but I still miss the simplistic...yes, that's right!...gameplay of Mortal Kombat.
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So...in other words, you suck, huh?
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Good one Whitesword.
As for MK.
"No sir, I don't like it"
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| DKW
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| "Re(4):Count me in." , posted Tue 19 Feb 00:15
I believe this is the first time I've ever done a follow-up on a post in the same evening.
Do I suck? Well, I can totally bust open Fatal Fury on one credit. However, I've never beaten Fatal Fury 2 without continuing (or save states). Then again, neither has anyone else that I know of. Make of it what you will. (Whaddya mean, "current example"?? It's not MY fault if you never heard of one of the best fighting game series out there!)
I've played KOF '99 on emulator, and, while I have managed to beat it with every team (Bao is totally underrated, BTW), I have no illusions about mastering the game, but I am good enough to beat most opponents. S'long as the difficulty isn't too high. (And the only reason to raise the difficulty is to get a better score, and considering the asinine "battle point" system, that's not exactly compelling motivation. Or shouldn't be.) From what I've seem of KOF '00, and '01, well, it's gonna be a bit tougher (and I don't care what anyone says, Zero is a killer!).
And it's okay to use a Gameshark because this is a free country and not some friggin' game company oligarchy. And c'mon, if they didn't mean for us to use it, why the hell did they put it on sale in the first place? (Go to my website for my pull-no-punches essay on this subject. Here, a little experiment: Go play any NFL Blitz from 2000 onward...say, three or four games a day...without any help whatsoever. No codes, no devices, nothing. And see how long you're actually willing to do this.)
I like having options, people! Why is this so hard to understand?
Now can we please start talking about Mortal Kombat 5 again?
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| Juan 1337th Post
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| "Re(5):Count me in." , posted Tue 19 Feb 12:55
My firend's little brother can also bust up fatal fury in one credit, he does power waves all the time and maybe dodges attacks once in a while. The AI in that game is not very clever.
But hey, like you said, its up to you to use a gameshark. It is also ok for people to use viagra whenever they cant do stuff right.
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just kidding. hoho.
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" Well, I can totally bust open Fatal Fury on one credit. However, I've never beaten Fatal Fury 2 without continuing (or save states). Then again, neither has anyone else that I know of. Make of it what you will. (Whaddya mean, "current example"?? It's not MY fault if you never heard of one of the best fighting game series out there!)
I've played KOF '99 on emulator, and, while I have managed to beat it with every team (Bao is totally underrated, BTW), I have no illusions about mastering the game, but I am good enough to beat most opponents. S'long as the difficulty isn't too high. (And the only reason to raise the difficulty is to get a better score, and considering the asinine "battle point" system, that's not exactly compelling motivation. Or shouldn't be.) From what I've seem of KOF '00, and '01, well, it's gonna be a bit tougher (and I don't care what anyone says, Zero is a killer!).
And it's okay to use a Gameshark because this is a free country and not some friggin' game company oligarchy. And c'mon, if they didn't mean for us to use it, why the hell did they put it on sale in the first place? (Go to my website for my pull-no-punches essay on this subject. Here, a little experiment: Go play any NFL Blitz from 2000 onward...say, three or four games a day...without any help whatsoever. No codes, no devices, nothing. And see how long you're actually willing to do this.)
I like having options, people! Why is this so hard to understand?
Now can we please start talking about Mortal Kombat 5 again?
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| ONSLAUGHT 1405th Post
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| "Re(5):Count me in." , posted Tue 19 Feb 09:29
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And it's okay to use a Gameshark because this is a free country and not some friggin' game company oligarchy. And c'mon, if they didn't mean for us to use it, why the hell did they put it on sale in the first place? (Go to my website for my pull-no-punches essay on this subject. Here, a little experiment: Go play any NFL Blitz from 2000 onward...say, three or four games a day...without any help whatsoever. No codes, no devices, nothing. And see how long you're actually willing to do this.)
I like having options, people! Why is this so hard to understand?
Now can we please start talking about Mortal Kombat 5 again?
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Geez man, why so defensive? We're only joking...
And if you're enjoying using a gameshark, well, go ahead, it's your money...
And about MK, well, let's say that the only good MK game has been MK 2, the rest is shit in my eyes...
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| Ultima
218th Post
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| "Re(2):The Pits" , posted Fri 22 Feb 18:50
re: Pit Fighter
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" That game wasnt that bad for the time it was made. It did not try to be a clone MK or SF, and it was fun when you had the 3 players."
It's kinda hard for Pit Fighter to be a clone of SF or MK when Pit Fighter predates both those games by quite a bit.
Concerning this thread... Well, it's MK. Since the very beginning I've hated this series for it's pathetic shallow excuse for "gameplay", and was dismayed to see so many people by into it on graphics alone. MKII had some redeeming qualities, but IMO it should never have gotten as popular as it did since it lacked substance. But anyway, time has proven me correct, as no one really gives a shit about MK any more.
That being said, I'm curious about this new MK. I'm curious to see if Midway will actually have a decent engine underneathe all the glitz. I'm curious to see if MK can dig itself out of the hole that all games MK3+ put the series in. And I'm curious to see if anyone will truly give a rat's ass about MK again. My guess to all of the above is "no", but I admit, I'm interested in watching it happen.
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