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| Hungrywolf 384th Post
 
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|  "Re(5):Zelda redesign confirmed"
, posted Mon 18 Feb 08:01
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" I must be the only one that likes the new style. I dont see why people are so rabid about the look, i mean if you look at past illustrations of the original zelda games in the famicom/nes, you'll see that it was supposed to be "cartoony" the whole time.
I love the new graphics, and im pretty sure it will be just as good if not better than the previous nes/snes/n64 games.
It is better for now to turn off the hate monger mode and wait for reviews or until you play the game yourself.
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I agree with you Juan, it reminds me a lot of the illustrations that Miyamoto did for the first Zelda game (which was awesome). The first two Zelda's still stand out in my mind as the most difficult and the best. I really have no complaints about the new look, and I'm sure the story and the gameplay will be as good as the rest. I mean, just because the demo movie showed the kindof wacky antics doesn't mean the game will be like that, and even if it is some of the time, it won't be a bad thing. Everyone wants their games too mature now, with gore and guts and lots of swearing and all that crap. I really don't understand why. I have more fun playing some of my old nes games than games like that. Not to say that mature games aren't good, they have their place, but Zelda has NEVER been a mature title, like everyone thinks. It's always been for everyone. I've said it before, I thought the biggest physical change to link happened in the Ocarina of Time, b/c I've played all of the games. Seriously, you might as well not complain just because it's a little different to you. I think most people that complain (not all, but most) have never even played the Legend of Zelda and the Adventure of Link. Some haven't even played A Link to the Past. In any case, that's all I have to say. I am a huge fan of Miyamoto and the Zelda series and don't think he'll disappoint.
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| Dr Baghead 619th Post
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|  "Re(6):Zelda redesign confirmed"
, posted Mon 18 Feb 10:18
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"So since Tekken 4 looks realistic it should play realistic?
Yes the illustrations were cartoony but to make the game play and look like a cartoon is where I draw the line. Zelda's lightheartedness was like that of the earlier Final Fantasy games...it had it's fair share of comedy and being cheery but it had a serious tone to the story and atmosphere. Miyamoto is now taking a direction that is making Celda COMPLETELY lighthearted. It's fine for link to LOOK like the illustrations but the link in Celda looks like Hermy the elf cut out from a magazine spiced with some zany looney tunes character.
You realize that if the story is just as serious as the past Zelda games ESPECIALLY LttP and TOoT or MM then Miyamoto has played the biggest joke on us...this is not talking about gameplay...I KNOW the gameplay will be good but I played Zelda because of it's early Final Fantasy-ish RPG/Story elements and character designs...now that's being taken away from me...a loyal Zelda fan that the main reason why he has bought every Nintendo console he has just for Zelda!"
Maybe it's my love of all things cartoony talking, but if you ask me, the new Celda has the prefect look for a family friendly fun action game.
Go to IGN and watch the trailer, to me the art style is similar to that of "Samurai Jack" or "the Powerpuff Girls", two very stylistic, entertaining, and action filled cartoons, I doubt 'Celda' will be anything but.
and even if you don't like the look this is Miyamoto we're talking about here, I didn't think I'd like Pikmin until I played it, and man! what a game that is! Until someone can prove me wrong that not everything Miyamoto has made has been gold there's no reason to think Celda will be anything short of the greastest Zelda game ever.
(goes on a bit of a tangent) You know, it really pisses me off when people whine about what they hate... a few years ago Disney made kick ass musicals geared to children (see tag for example) they weren't fight filled action packed anime adventures but they were entertaining. Then anime fans started to complain, people who never understood Walt's dream and vission, that Disney was too kiddy. So what's Disney do? They drop the musicals in a favor of anime-wanna-be shit like Atlantis and Treasure Planet, and God only knows what they where thinking with "Lilo and Stitch"...
maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's not the complainer's doing... maybe there's just no more room in this "wham-bam" world of darkness and gore for vissonaries who want to make something all ages can love... Maybe Miyamoto isn't changing Celda for now, but how long before he's forced to replace Mario's light-hearted water-backpack with a flame thrower and hand grenades?
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| Shin ATproof
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| "Re(2):Re(10):Zelda redesign confirmed" , posted Mon 18 Feb 11:24
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" Question...what makes you think it WON'T be a comedy(meaning not just being lighthearted but a comedy/adventure?
Again, look at final fantasy or some anime, I dont see anyone complaining about how cute the characters look, yet they make serious stories. Animation/art styles can be rather flexible in case you havent noticed. As stated before by several people, this style has basically been used on the older Zelda games, which you have played i imagine. So yes, link is a funny elf. He always has been.
I dont think Miyamoto wants to piss people off since thats not usually how you make money. Loyal fans would give the guy a break and wait until the product is finished. This guy knows what he is doing, he made the games you played when you were little.
No more answers to this thread since the same questions are being asked in different manners, and i dont like copy and paste :)"
"Besides, as you saw on the article, Miyamoto clearly doesnt care about people that think the franchise is ruined just for a change of style."
Sounds like Miyamoto KNOWS he is going to piss off people and it appears to see how many people he can...while it's possible that YES his intentions were good he is turining a once great series with all the formulas of a great RPG into a comedy. To me that's a step in the wrong direction for thes series...but I'm not Miyamoto so I can't do anything about it. It appears the ONLY saving grace for this series is two things:
1)Good gameplay which there is no doubt in my mind that it will me
2)IT BETTER BE FUNNY!
No I already tackled you FF question LONG before you even asked it...Final Fantasy has LIGHTHEARTED HUMOR with or without Chibi characters it still had a SERIOUS STORY AND ENVIRONMENT! That's how all the previous Zelda games were! Not any more it seems.
Oh and Link as a funny elf like Hermy? So Link doesn't want to be the hero of Hyrule he just wants to be a dentist!?
Now you like the Celda design? Good for you...I hate it! We both agree that the gameplay will be good but we seem to disagree on if the game's direction of character design and environment is good...copout of this argument if you like but my argument still stands.
"Kore ga...Kusanagi no ken da!!!"
" I AM GODZILLA...YOU ARE JAPAN!!!"
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| Juan 1328th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Zelda redesign confirmed" , posted Mon 18 Feb 11:30
Dodongo dislikes fire!
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" quote:" Question...what makes you think it WON'T be a comedy(meaning not just being lighthearted but a comedy/adventure?
Again, look at final fantasy or some anime, I dont see anyone complaining about how cute the characters look, yet they make serious stories. Animation/art styles can be rather flexible in case you havent noticed. As stated before by several people, this style has basically been used on the older Zelda games, which you have played i imagine. So yes, link is a funny elf. He always has been.
I dont think Miyamoto wants to piss people off since thats not usually how you make money. Loyal fans would give the guy a break and wait until the product is finished. This guy knows what he is doing, he made the games you played when you were little.
No more answers to this thread since the same questions are being asked in different manners, and i dont like copy and paste :)"
"Besides, as you saw on the article, Miyamoto clearly doesnt care about people that think the franchise is ruined just for a change of style."
Sounds like Miyamoto KNOWS he is going to piss off people and it appears to see how many people he can...while it's possible that YES his intentions were good he is turining a once great series with all the formulas of a great RPG into a comedy. To me that's a step in the wrong direction for thes series...but I'm not Miyamoto so I can't do anything about it. It appears the ONLY saving grace for this series is two things:
1)Good gameplay which there is no doubt in my mind that it will me
2)IT BETTER BE FUNNY!
No I already tackled you FF question LONG before you even asked it...Final Fantasy has LIGHTHEARTED HUMOR with or without Chibi characters it still had a SERIOUS STORY AND ENVIRONMENT! That's how all the previous Zelda games were! Not any more it seems.
Oh and Link as a funny elf like Hermy? So Link doesn't want to be the hero of Hyrule he just wants to be a dentist!?
Now you like the Celda design? Good for you...I hate it! We both agree that the gameplay will be good but we seem to disagree on if the game's direction of character design and environment is good...copout of this argument if you like but my argument still stands.
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Juan sucks!
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