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| Just a Person
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|  "Capcom Vs. SNK 2"
, posted Sat 16 Feb 14:25
I wrote too much about SSBM,now it's CvS2 time . I played the PS2 version and saw some people playing the Dreamcast version . Both seem to have the same quality (by the way,I read somewhere that Sega is releasing a new black version of Dreamcast in Japan,is it true ?) .
It's fantastic !! It's even better than Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 !! But they could add some more characters,like Norimaro (I love playing him !!),Ruby Heart,Blue Mary and Robert Garcia .
The 3D stages are very well done,they are better than the MvC2 ones . The soundtrack is very good (what isn't common in Capcom games) . And all the 6 Grooves make the game even better (by the way,my favorite one is the N-Groove,followed by the P-Groove) .
Now,about the characters : most of them didn't change very much,so,the only old character I'll be commenting is Chun-Li,who was totally redrawn and is incredibly pretty (don't complain,Eric !!) .
Right,here are my opinions :
- Yun : I liked him,although I think he isn't as good as in SF3 . His Super Combo where he sends Yang to attack the opponent is nice (but Yang should be a playable character,too) .
- Kyosuke : he plays a little like Guile . Anyway,he's a good character . His Super Combo featuring Hinata and Batsu is great (again,Hinata and Batsu should be playable,too) !
- Maki : she isn't as good as I expected (what doesn't mean she is a bad fighter) . In Final Fight 2,Maki was a serious fighter,but now she's almost as comic as Dan (who was also a serious character in the 1st. Street Fighter Alpha) ! Poor Maki,at least she's still very pretty !
- Eagle : a nice character . Some of his attacks look like Mr. Big's ones,but in a different way . He's very nice .
- Rolento : he is just like in the SF Alpha series,nothing else .
- Chun-Li : wow ! Chun-Li is very cool ! Her attacks are very nice (although her Spinning Bird Kick could be like in SFA3,and her Kikouken could have a better range) . Her new Super Combo is like Senretsu Kyaku,but much more effective . And now,people can't say she isn't pretty anymore,her face is very cute and her legs don't seem to be manly (personally,I think they are like Jennifer Lopez's or Victoria Beckham's legs,you guys won't say that J.Lo and Posh Spice have manly legs,will you ?) . Now I just need to see her intro against Mai .
- Haohmaru : he doesn't seem to be very different from Samurai Shodown (good job,Capcom !) . He's a nice character,but I don't like sword characters (except Nakoruru) .
- Athena : she's with her '95 outfit (the'94 one has larger sleeves) . A great fighter,with her old nice attacks,I (and all the other people who I saw playig this game) liked Athena . Go on,girl !
- Todo : although I would prefer Kasumi,it's nice to see some old faces . He's a great defensive character,very effective against big guys like Sagat . Ryuhaku is cool,but his coolest moments are during the intros and victory poses,when Kasumi appears with him . By the way,although most of the characters here are with their old outfits,isn't Kasumi with her new '99 outfit ?
- Chang & Choi : I never liked them,so I still consider them bad fighters . But they are more interesting now,fighting at the same time . They are probably good against Zangief and Raiden,but I don't know .
- Hibiki : as I said before,I don't like sword fighters . Besides,my favorite Last Blade character is Akari (by the way,I only played with Hibiki in CvS2,I never used her in Last Blade 2) . But she's a good character . She has good speed,good attacks and a nice look .
- Rock : Terry and Geese in one fighter . I liked him (although he looks like a Backstreet Boy) . As far as I know,Rock should be just a kid in 2001,but since Haohmaru,Nakoruru,Hibiki and Morrigan are here,not to mention that Cammy is still a Shadaloo fighter (maybe she was recaptured by Vega/M.Bison) and Sakura is still a young student (and I hope she will always be a cute girl),there are no problems here .
That's all . Send your opinions ! Bye !
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| Shin ATproof
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| "Re(1):Capcom Vs. SNK 2" , posted Wed 20 Feb 13:58:
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"- Maki : she isn't as good as I expected (what doesn't mean she is a bad fighter) . In Final Fight 2,Maki was a serious fighter,but now she's almost as comic as Dan (who was also a serious character in the 1st. Street Fighter Alpha) ! Poor Maki,at least she's still very pretty !"
OMG!!!!!!!!!
WTF?!?!?!?!?
MAKI ****ING OWNZ YOU!!!!!!!!!
She is an incredible grappler in this game! She is arguably better than Guy ever was! She has many 2 in 1's with her supers that do mad damage...she has nice air superiority, she has high/low attacks, she can fake out easy, she is super quick and has a great defense for her type of character...Maki is so damn good I use her in tournaments and win matches with just her! I am currently making a FAQ about her so other Maki users and people interested in her will give her a try and see just how freak'n awesome she is!
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Any way MOTM=BETTER THAN CVS1!...better combos, faster gameplay, better character balance(each character was fairly represented) and it has mad replay value.
It is not however better than CVS2...that game has mad replay value and options...it's still pretty broken(like most Capcom and SNK games) but it's better balanced than CvS1 and it has some oldskool CCs and awesome options like Parry and 98's Advanced mode that just makes me drool everytime I think about it or see it...Kyo, Rock or Terry with Parry...Maki, Ken and Chun Li with enhanced strength and linkable supers and rolling...HEAVEN!
"Kore ga...Kusanagi no ken da!!!"
" I AM GODZILLA...YOU ARE JAPAN!!!"
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| strider
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| "Re(1):Capcom Vs. SNK 2" , posted Mon 18 Feb 22:27
time for some of my opinions on characters..
sagat - stand / c.fierces and small jump rh into lvl 3 or fierce tiger uppercut combos... he can also do c.short x2, c.forward into low tiger shot or you can try to tiger knee and throw them after the forward kick, deep tiger uppercut is his best anti air.. stand fierce is great for small jumpers and his high tigershot super makes a good anti air as well
cammy - stand fierce and rh, deep short cannon spikes make a good anti air.. if you land a lucky stand fierce you get a free lvl 3 super...
athena - c.fierce, stand strong from a slight distance makes a good anti air for her, reverse tiger knee+short builds meter fast and is pretty safe to do.. also j.forward crosses up nicely and c.short x3 into c.fierce hurts. great battery char
akuma - probably the best shoto in the game.. n groove ken is also up there.. akuma has the standard cross up forward and demon flip mix ups that can lead into easy customs or lvl 3s. Raging demon can be used as an anti air and guard roll into raging demon is way too good =\
morrigan - best used in the SNK grooves, due to her ability to dash in the air like that and come down on people with roundhouses over and over, when one connects you can chain a few hits into darkness illusion or just go for a knock down and throw a meaty fireball, dash up and poke them some more while they're stuck blocking..
ken - toward+rh can poke safely from the right distance, he has a few mixups with his reverse dp+k move... lvl 1 shinryuken is a safe chip if you mash enough, you get pushed away from them at the end and they can't do anything about it (unless they're an N groove player or a p groove player that actually parries the whole thing)
iori - omfg good in this game.. c.rh is great, deep dragon punches are a deadly antiair for him and if he's using a groove you can take off around 70% if someone jumps at you with a fairly easy custom... c.strong seems to beat out a good amount of things and if a c.strong hits as a counter, you could do another and they'd chain. c.short x3 into qcb+p x3 does good damage, c.short, stand fierce into qcb+p x3 does even better damage.. his qcf, hcb+p super has good anti-air priority even at lvl 1
chun li - one of my favorite chars in this game.. c.rh is still a solid anti air, but if they jump at you, you could walk under them, stand rh then superjump cancel that and hit them with fierce x2 in the air.. cross up short into lightning leg (4 hits OR 2 hits and...), c.jab, c.strong into spinning bird kick chips for free on most mid / big sized chars (n groove players can hit you if you do this though), if the lightning leg connects for 2 hits, you can chain into some crazy stuff in C groove.. stand fierce is good for holding your distance and beats out sagats fierces.. stand strong into a jab fireball is a good way of holding him off as well with chun
blanka - probably my favorite char in this game, his slide can't be punished by sagat if you distance yourself properly, it also beats out his c.fierce and goes under low tiger shots, small jump rh is great as well, he can get some throw mixups going on with his hop move after a c.forward, his super still kicks ass (the standard ball super) AND you can combo into it with a c.forward, or jump in rh, stand fierce into it, etc.. jumping straight up with fierce is probably his best anti air besides his super :D
i can post more later x.x if you guys actually want to hear it, peace.
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| Just a Person
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| "Re(1):Capcom Vs. SNK 2" , posted Sat 16 Feb 14:56
Some more opinions about it :
Favorite battle system : 3 on 3 battle (old KoF style) or Single Mode (1 on 1)
Teams and grooves :
-Ryu,Kyosuke,Yun (C-Groove)
-Ken,Eagle,Guile (A-Groove)
-Chun-Li,Morrigan,Maki (P-Groove)
-Dan,Sakura,Blanka (A-Groove)
-Dhalsim,Zangief,E.Honda (C-Groove)
-Sagat,Balrog/Vega,Mike Bison/Balrog (P-Groove)
-Vega/M.Bison,Cammy,Rolento (any Capcom Groove)
-Gouki/Akuma (I only use him in the Single Mode;any SNK Groove)
-Kyo,Benimaru,Kim (S-Groove)
-Terry,Rock,Joe (N-Groove)
-Haohmaru,Nakoruru,Todo (K-Groove)
-Iori,Vice,Chang & Choi (K-Groove)
-Ryo,King,Yuri (S-Groove)
-Mai,Athena,Hibiki (N-Groove)
-Geese,Yamazaki,Raiden (any SNK Groove)
-Rugal (I only use him in the Single Mode;any Capcom Groove)
-Evil Ryu (only in the Single Mode;any Capcom Groove)
-Orochi Iori (only in the Single Mode;any SNK Groove)
-Shin Gouki/Shin Akuma (only in the Single Mode;any Edit Groove)
-Omega Rugal/Ultimate Rugal (only in the Single Mode;any Edit Groove)
-any other team (N-Groove or P-Groove)
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| Freeter 1814th Post
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| "Ha." , posted Wed 20 Feb 09:40
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" MotM = Overrated. How can anyone consider a handheld game to be superior to *any* arcade fighter (unless said arcade fighter is supremely bad - see War Gods, Time Killers, etc) is beyond me, but I guess many folks don't play competitively. "
No, MOTM = Underrated. If this was a full fledged arcade fighter you'd see why I think it owns. Hell, why else do you think most of the ppl who've played it want an MVS version of SNK vs Capcom?
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"No one who takes fighting games seriously (as in people who actually compete, and don't just play for playing's sake) think MotM is better than CvS2, or even CvS1 for that matter. Not that MotM is a bad game, but it's no match for a full size arcade fighter.
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CVS1 is one of the most broken fighting games on the face of this earth. And you'd have to be an absolute fool to think it even compares to MOTM.
Like I said before, if MOTM were a full fledged arcade game, I think it would own the CVS games for FREE. SNK knew how to do this crossover right.
Now if only Playmore can make an MVS(or Crystal or whatever) version of SVC, then we'll see if SNK can stack up to Capcom's efforts...
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| Iron D 1294th Post
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| "I dunno..." , posted Wed 20 Feb 10:54
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Like I said before, if MOTM were a full fledged arcade game, I think it would own the CVS games for FREE. SNK knew how to do this crossover right.
Now if only Playmore can make an MVS(or Crystal or whatever) version of SVC, then we'll see if SNK can stack up to Capcom's efforts...
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MotM is good. Real good. Terminates CvS1, but CvS2? I don't know about that. Obviously both have their strengths and weaknesses, but if MotM were made into an MVS game then the real problems with gameplay would show up. Apparently, there are some real balance problems, but you wouldn't really notice this on a handheld where there is little vs. competition right?
MotM has the minigames and earnables, CvS2 has the earnables, the number of characters, the modes of play...CvS2 only lacks a lot of the nostalgia that MotM has like classic tunes and backgrounds. Oh, and MotM actually has a story, which is always good, even though every character practically has the same ending.
Still, I think for pure fun I'd rather go with CvS2. My opinion, of course.
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| Freeter 1818th Post
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| "hmm" , posted Wed 20 Feb 12:03
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" MotM is good. Real good. Terminates CvS1, but CvS2? I don't know about that. Obviously both have their strengths and weaknesses, but if MotM were made into an MVS game then the real problems with gameplay would show up. Apparently, there are some real balance problems, but you wouldn't really notice this on a handheld where there is little vs. competition right?
MotM has the minigames and earnables, CvS2 has the earnables, the number of characters, the modes of play...CvS2 only lacks a lot of the nostalgia that MotM has like classic tunes and backgrounds. Oh, and MotM actually has a story, which is always good, even though every character practically has the same ending.
Still, I think for pure fun I'd rather go with CvS2. My opinion, of course.
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Well, CVS2 was a better effort from Capcom. I mean, six grooves and a wealth of improvements from the first...can't go wrong with that.
All I'm sayin is that MOTM is a very good fighter and deserves its place as one of the best fighting games ever made. CVS2 also deserves it too.
After all, who'd ever think in a million years that these two companies would actually team up? 
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| Fro Boy11
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| "Re(6):Capcom Vs. SNK 2" , posted Sun 17 Feb 11:42
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" quote:" My teams consists of Cammy,Eagle,Kyosuke,Yamazaki,Athena,Maki or Yun.
I still have yet to make color edits.
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Almost forgot Hibiki.
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My team is any combination of Terry, Kyo, Rock, Joe, Geese, Rugal, Kim, Ken, Guile, Iori, Haohmaru, Vega/Balrog, Sagat, Ryo, Athena, King, and M.Bison/Vega.
Everyone else I'm really not into.
I let my brother borrow this game from me for 2 weeks and I borrowed KOF Evolution, and I just got it back yesterday, and my game was off a little bit (timing combos and etc.) but I got it back.
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