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| Iron D 1265th Post
 
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|  "Street Fighter rankings based on storyline"
, posted Fri 15 Feb 14:35
According to TarkanX of SF.org, he found this ranking list of the SF's based on storyline. He claims that is from Capcom of Japan, so that make would make it official...if it were true, which I'm not completely convinced it is. Oh and the names of the games next to the characters names is the last game that the characters appeared in. Anyway, it goes like this:
Akuma(SF3:3S)
Gill(Sf3:3S)
Oro(SF3:3S)
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Shin Bison(before SF2, during SFA3, also dead)
Sagat(equal with Shin Bison, SF2)
Ryu(SF3:3S)
Evil Ryu(in SF1 against Sagat)
Q(SF3:3S)
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Ken(SF3:3S)
Gen(dead)
Rose(gone)
Charlie(dead)
Urien(SF3:3S)
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Guile(SF2)
Chun li(SF3:3S)
Hugo(SF3:3S)
Vega(SF2)
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Adon(SFA3, and this laughing hyena isnt dead)
Guy(missing, possibly dead SFA3)
sakura(SFA3)
Cody(SFA3)
Balrog(SF2)
Cammy(SF2)
Zangief(SF2, stilll training like the others)
Dhalsim(SF2, quit street fighting)
T Hawk(SF2)
Alex(SF3:3S)
If you notice, Gen is in the 2nd tier. TarkanX says that if Gen were still alive he would be on an equal level with Akuma.
Personally, I'd think that Alex, Guy, and Chun Li would be higher than they are. I mean, Alex won the SF3 tournament, Guy is the MASTER of BUSHIN STYLE, and Chun-li is supposedly responsible (at least partially) for the downfall of Shadaloo. Other than that, this list seems about right.
Comments, anyone?
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| DKW
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| "Re(1):Street Fighter rankings based on storyl" , posted Mon 18 Feb 22:22
Storyline rankings? I'd be glad to fill you in.
1. Ryu/Akuma (tie)
Start with Ryu. Has this guy ever officially lost? Ever? Okay, he doesn't have fire 'n ice powers or Psycho Power or any of that jazz, but he's always had it where it counts...i.e., the win column...so who gives a damn, really?
And of course Akuma's gotta be on top as well, because he's the Raging Demon and he kills and he's all-powerful and stuff.
3. Ken
He's up there, but he'll never be better than second best (third best, actually) because he has fewer wins and can't control the Evil Hado and is more worldly and stuff.
4. Gen
Really deadly assassin who fought Akuma to a standstill and can kill anyone with one blow and stuff.
5. M
Would be higher, but just got his butt handed to him too many times to do better than this. Can stomp nearly anyone flat, but invariably loses to anyone who's Destined To Destroy The Evil (e.g. Ryu, of all people). Repeated bushwackings by Akuma particularly damaging.
6. Sagat
Ditto. Even worse because he doesn't have a way cool power or evil organization at his command. And that scar...
7. Alex
They made him the star of SF3 for some reason, right?
Not serious? Of course I'm not serious. Is that possible?
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(4):Street Fighter rankings based on storyl" , posted Sun 17 Feb 12:14:
"Just for the record; Dan is in a promotional poster of SF 2, World Warriors... And Leona "was" on a Fatal Fury 3 back ground, on year before her debut..."
That guy wasn't Dan when that poster first came out^^ At first, he was just a generic nameless person for Sagat to beat on, then later on with Alpha (and thus Dan still didn't even exist as a concept back during SF2's days) Capcom decided to make a storyline for him and they named him Dan. Furthermore, since then, Capcom even changed his storyline from what that poster is (the new storyline is that Dan actually beat Sagat, though that's because Sagat let him win) so that poster doesn't really apply anymore that way, either. And also, you can see that Dan got drastically changed from SFA1 to SFA2 (which replaces SFA1 in terms of storyline), which furthers the fact that Capcom obviously wasn't thinking about the Alpha storyline much at all when they made SF2, so you really shouldn't use SF2 too much as a gauge of Alpha's storyline. Though... at least SF2 Revival for the Gameboy Advance reconciles a lot of it...
Though, oops, forgot to mention, as for Rose, there actually IS a possibility that she's still around, though. Lots of people assume she's gone and died with Bison when Akuma killed Bison with the shun goku satsu, but I myself personally feel that there's a chance that only Bison's half of the soul was killed by Akuma and Rose's half is still back within her own body or so. Capcom never stated exactly WHAT Bison did with Rose's body after he moved into his new body for SF2 (Ugh, that sounded dirty O_o) and they never really stated if Bison in SF2 was completely merged with Rose's half of the soul either, so there could be a chance that Bison left Rose's half of the soul behind in her body and thus only his half got killed by Akuma.
Course, that's all just conjecture on my part but it's a possibility, I think. ^^
"He may be in charge of his master dojo now... remeber that that was the reason of his departure, to become a master... it just maybe that Maki is placed right after the Final Fight 2 age when she is on SvC2"
Like I said, official statements even before CvS2 was in the planning stages were that Guy had gone missing after Final Fight 3 and SFA3. ^^ CvS2 simply reiterates this, but he's still been missing for 7 years+. ^^
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| Toxico 1466th Post
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| "Re(5):Street Fighter rankings based on storyl" , posted Sun 17 Feb 13:32:
Just for the record; Dan is in a promotional poster of SF 2, World Warriors...
That guy wasn't Dan when that poster first came out^^ At first, he was just a generic nameless person for Sagat to beat on, then later on with Alpha (and thus Dan still didn't even exist as a concept back during SF2's days) Capcom decided to make a storyline for him and they named him Dan. Furthermore, since then, Capcom even changed his storyline from what that poster is (the new storyline is that Dan actually beat Sagat, though that's because Sagat let him win) so that poster doesn't really apply anymore that way, either. And also, you can see that Dan got drastically changed from SFA1 to SFA2 (which replaces SFA1 in terms of storyline), which furthers the fact that Capcom obviously wasn't thinking about the Alpha storyline much at all when they made SF2, so you really shouldn't use SF2 too much as a gauge of Alpha's storyline. Though... at least SF2 Revival for the Gameboy Advance reconciles a lot of it...
Of course we know that; but I was trying to tell that companies sometimes grab desings that where lost or where unaprobed; for example check in Fatal Fury 2; the guy that rides a fish on Mai's stage is an previous desing for Mai; or Maxima (KoF), who where based on a character of a really early beat 'em up....
Hagh... I should have realized that I am no SF expert when I was posting on here... as always; many characters that I want to see alive are death.
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(6):Street Fighter rankings based on storyl" , posted Sun 17 Feb 15:22:
"Just for the record; Dan is in a promotional poster of SF 2, World Warriors...
That guy wasn't Dan when that poster first came out^^ At first, he was just a generic nameless person for Sagat to beat on, then later on with Alpha (and thus Dan still didn't even exist as a concept back during SF2's days) Capcom decided to make a storyline for him and they named him Dan. Furthermore, since then, Capcom even changed his storyline from what that poster is (the new storyline is that Dan actually beat Sagat, though that's because Sagat let him win) so that poster doesn't really apply anymore that way, either. And also, you can see that Dan got drastically changed from SFA1 to SFA2 (which replaces SFA1 in terms of storyline), which furthers the fact that Capcom obviously wasn't thinking about the Alpha storyline much at all when they made SF2, so you really shouldn't use SF2 too much as a gauge of Alpha's storyline. Though... at least SF2 Revival for the Gameboy Advance reconciles a lot of it...
Of course we know that; but I was trying to tell that companies sometimes grab desings that where lost or where unaprobed; for example check in Fatal Fury 2; the guy that rides a fish on Mai's stage is an previous desing for Mai; or Maxima (KoF), who where based on a character of a really early beat 'em up....
Hagh... I should have realized that I am no SF expert when I was posting on here... as always; many characters that I want to see alive are death.
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Yea, I wonder if Capcom will ever remember that Gouken had a daughter. Now that's one heck of a lost storyline tidbit...
It's sad. Lots of characters just... die over time :( Though more die in the KOF series than in the Street Fighter series. Worse comes to worse, I suppose there is a chance Guy is still alive since he wasn't stated directly to be dead (just implied and that he's missing), but I don't have my hopes up too high there. Ditto for Rose, though the possibility still exists for both at least. Maybe Rose just knocked Guy for a loop and made him camatose, or lose his memory, or brainwash him, or something (or whatever. It's not directly stated it was Rose either but she's the most likely culprit).
Despite their really slim chances, though, they have a much better chance of coming back or being alive than Mature and Vice and maybe even Geese, though, that's for sure. Street Fighter series in general... yea, as stated previously in this reply, it kills off a lot less characters for sure than SNK's games do.
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| Toxico 1466th Post
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| "Re(7):Street Fighter rankings based on storyl" , posted Sun 17 Feb 18:54
Yea, I wonder if Capcom will ever remember that Gouken had a daughter. Now that's one heck of a lost storyline tidbit...
It's sad. Lots of characters just... die over time :( Though more die in the KOF series than in the Street Fighter series. Worse comes to worse, I suppose there is a chance Guy is still alive since he wasn't stated directly to be dead (just implied and that he's missing), but I don't have my hopes up too high there. Ditto for Rose, though the possibility still exists for both at least. Maybe Rose just knocked Guy for a loop and made him camatose, or lose his memory, or brainwash him, or something (or whatever. It's not directly stated it was Rose either but she's the most likely culprit).
Despite their really slim chances, though, they have a much better chance of coming back or being alive than Mature and Vice and maybe even Geese, though, that's for sure. Street Fighter series in general... yea, as stated previously in this reply, it kills off a lot less characters for sure than SNK's games do.
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Yes; let us recall than in SFZ3 for PSX are all the characters of the SFX and SFII sagas; while SFIII has, well; all characters of SFIII saga... Capcom is nostalgic about their characters; I would dare to say...
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| Just a Person
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| "Re(3):Street Fighter rankings based on storyl" , posted Sat 16 Feb 15:33
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" Wasn't SSFII and thus Dee Jay's stage made before Alpha and thus Rose even existed? So I'd hardly think that'd be Rose in the background there... ^^
Dunno about Guy exactly, but One thing's for sure though is that as of yet 7 years after he's gone missing or so, he hasn't turned up. I'd take that as dead, myself.
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I don't know . Maybe when Capcom was producing Street Fighter Alpha,they looked at that woman in Dee Jay's stage and thought, "let's put her as one of the fighters" . Ridiculous ? Well,knowing the standard Street Fighters,would you suppose that R.Mika and her strange outfit (even from a wrestler) would be in SFA3 ?
About Guy,he's missing . Guy was never a social guy,so it's natural that he won't look for anyone until he feels like doing this . Anyway,I think that Capcom is still going to bring him back,maybe in a future Final Fight .
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| Ultima
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| "Re(1):Street Fighter rankings based on storyl" , posted Sat 16 Feb 01:32
From Iron D:
> According to TarkanX of SF.org, he found this ranking list of the SF's based on storyline. He claims that is from Capcom of Japan, so that make would make it official...if it were true, which I'm not completely convinced it is.
Sorta. HOwever, did this person state where he *really* got the list from, which was from Saiki (who in turn compiled the list based on what Capcom of Japan has said) who posted this over on shoryuken.com's forums 6 weeks ago?
Go here foe the original post (it's about 2/3rds the way down):
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?s=2b6af7bac036749f5da9b0c3e53ce541&threadid=40326&perpage=25&pagenumber=29
> [Tier 2]
Shin Bison(before SF2, during SFA3, also dead)
Sagat(equal with Shin Bison, SF2)
Ryu(SF3:3S)
Evil Ryu(in SF1 against Sagat)
Q(SF3:3S)
Some notes:
1) It's not Shin Bison/Vega who was ranked. It's just Bison/Vega. These rankings are based on the last known appearance of these characters, so it's SF2 Bison, not SFA3 Bison (I'm not sure if it was ever stated how much more powerful SFA3 Bison was compared to his SF2 form, or even if there was much of a difference)
2) Q is hinted at, mostly. The evidence is probably as vague as every other detail that's been revealed about him.
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(1):Street Fighter rankings based on storyl" , posted Fri 15 Feb 15:33:
Chun-Li's biggest role in bringing about the downfall of Shadaloo is in Guile's SFA3 ending. If you note, she never really fought anyone there. She just bombed the stupid base. That's hardly a good gauge of power, I think. :p There's also a chance that she's the one that won the SF2 tournament (the other person being Guile), in which case, she (and Guile, too) is already higher than most of the SF2 characters in the list, anyways.
Guy might be bushin master, but storyline wise, he never really did anything. Note that his battle with Bison in SFA2 never happened, and all he did in Final Fight was beat Rolento and Sodom, who didn't even make that list. In addition, Guy got left behind because he is most likely dead and has fallen behind due to that. Capcom has officially stated that since Final Fight 3 / SFA3, Guy has gone missing, and the reason for this is most likely that Rose killed him. Just go look at Rose's SFA3 ending (which Capcom has in fact announced officially happened), read it very slowly, and think and reflect on it, and it should come to you. Also, you can look at Maki's ending in CvS2 for proof that Guy has gone missing, but Capcom actually officially announced that he's gone missing long before CvS2 came out if you question the canonity of Maki's ending because it's in a VS game. This basically means that Guy only got to be Bushin Master for all of three years, tops, which probably isn't enough for him to realize his true power as a Bushin Master.
SF3's tournament is filled with scrubs :P And I'm not kidding. Note that most of the SF3 characters didn't even make the list. So Alex winning it is hardly a good gauge of his power. Alex got lucky. Ryu and Oro eliminated most of the strongest competition, I imagine (Ryu probably beat Hugo), then Oro beat Ryu, then Oro didn't show up for his fight with Alex (That's official statement about the Oro and Ryu stuff). So that's hardly a good gauge of Alex's power, either.
http://www.tekken.nu/fightermania/sf/sfplotguide22.
If you have any more questions, go to this URL then scroll down to the miscellaneous questions section and find the tier listing in this FAQ near the bottom. It'll describe the tiers in detail a bit more if more detail is still needed. It'll also describe what Rose's SFA3 ending means and why Rose probably killed Guy, if you still haven't figured it out yet.
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| Time Mage
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| "Hey TiamatRoar!" , posted Sat 16 Feb 02:02
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" Chun-Li's biggest role in bringing about the downfall of Shadaloo is in Guile's SFA3 ending. If you note, she never really fought anyone there. She just bombed the stupid base. That's hardly a good gauge of power, I think. :p There's also a chance that she's the one that won the SF2 tournament (the other person being Guile), in which case, she (and Guile, too) is already higher than most of the SF2 characters in the list, anyways.
Guy might be bushin master, but storyline wise, he never really did anything. Note that his battle with Bison in SFA2 never happened, and all he did in Final Fight was beat Rolento and Sodom, who didn't even make that list. In addition, Guy got left behind because he is most likely dead and has fallen behind due to that. Capcom has officially stated that since Final Fight 3 / SFA3, Guy has gone missing, and the reason for this is most likely that Rose killed him. Just go look at Rose's SFA3 ending (which Capcom has in fact announced officially happened), read it very slowly, and think and reflect on it, and it should come to you. Also, you can look at Maki's ending in CvS2 for proof that Guy has gone missing, but Capcom actually officially announced that he's gone missing long before CvS2 came out if you question the canonity of Maki's ending because it's in a VS game. This basically means that Guy only got to be Bushin Master for all of three years, tops, which probably isn't enough for him to realize his true power as a Bushin Master.
SF3's tournament is filled with scrubs :P And I'm not kidding. Note that most of the SF3 characters didn't even make the list. So Alex winning it is hardly a good gauge of his power. Alex got lucky. Ryu and Oro eliminated most of the strongest competition, I imagine (Ryu probably beat Hugo), then Oro beat Ryu, then Oro didn't show up for his fight with Alex (That's official statement about the Oro and Ryu stuff). So that's hardly a good gauge of Alex's power, either.
http://www.tekken.nu/fightermania/sf/sfplotguide22.
If you have any more questions, go to this URL then scroll down to the miscellaneous questions section and find the tier listing in this FAQ near the bottom. It'll describe the tiers in detail a bit more if more detail is still needed. It'll also describe what Rose's SFA3 ending means and why Rose probably killed Guy, if you still haven't figured it out yet.
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Hey! You're from the Fan Fiction section of the srk forums!
I've consulted many times the thread about the SF storyline, and all of you did a splendid job!
Glad to see you here. A SF story expert is always very convinient...
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| TiamatRoar
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| "Re(1):Hey TiamatRoar!" , posted Sun 17 Feb 12:23
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Hey! You're from the Fan Fiction section of the srk forums!
I've consulted many times the thread about the SF storyline, and all of you did a splendid job!
Glad to see you here. A SF story expert is always very convinient...
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Thanks for the welcome^^ Though Ultima, who apparently has been here for a while with his 214 posts, is also from that thread, too ^_^ I actually wasn't a storyline 'expert' until after that thread either, since most of my info came from that thread itself in actuality (well, that and rummaging through the net and finding logs of other SF storyline discussions that most of the Shoryuken participants had also participated in). Erm... yea, what was I talking about again? Well, anyway, thanks for the comments^^
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| Iron D 1267th Post
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| "Re(1):Final Fight One?" , posted Fri 15 Feb 17:58
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" Hiya, newbie here.
Is Alpha Guy's involvement in Final Fight One canon? (spoilers, sort of: in FFO, Alpha Guy and Cody become playable characters, with their own storyline. Under unexplained circunstances, they both travel back in time to 1989). If it is, Guy is currently in 1989, I think (I don't know if they returned to the present).
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I'm pretty sure that was just a joke. Time travel has never been a part of the SF, FF, or any related games' storyline ever.
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