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Heidern98
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"CVS2 Tourney Vids-poke poke poke" , posted Tue 12 Feb 16:10

Hey I don't know if any of you guys checked out any of those CVS2 vids that the prof posted but did you see how most of the game is ruled by poking???? I never get a chance to play CVS2 competively due to lack of arcades in my area so I dont know if thats the only way to play. Plus all I saw were stupid F'n Top tiers. I HATE when people only use top tiers. YUCK. Well it was interesting none the less but still upsetting to see a game that I love ruled by such bs.

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Iron D

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"Bah!" , posted Wed 13 Feb 14:16

So I guess what you are looking for is combos, combos, combos, huh?

I'm not a tournament player, but I know that there is definitely more to a fighting game (especially one like CvS2) than just combos. Pokes are a huge part of the gameplay of this game, and while there ARE huge combos that exist in this game, just try using them at a tournament level. Tell me how far that gets you...

I mean, after a while, it gets boring (and annoying) seeing rushdown, rushdown, rushdown, rushdown or keep away, keep away, away in MvC2 or run in, combo, run in, combo, striker, combo, striker, combo in KoF. And don't even get me started on infinites...

shyeim
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New Customer

"Re(1):CVS2 Tourney Vids-poke poke poke" , posted Tue 12 Feb 16:25

It was Capcom vs Capcom rather then Snk.....
gameplay poke,throw,waiting.....
It was boring final!!!!!!
I saw better finals then this.

Professor

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MMCafe Owner

"Re(2):CVS2 Tourney Vids-poke poke poke" , posted Tue 12 Feb 16:39

quote:
" It was Capcom vs Capcom rather then Snk.....
gameplay poke,throw,waiting.....
It was boring final!!!!!!
I saw better finals then this.
"

No, it was SFA vs SFA.
Seriously.

Toxico

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Red Carpet Executive Member

"Re(3):CVS2 Tourney Vids-poke poke poke" , posted Tue 12 Feb 16:54

Be glad that you did not see the Tekken tournament on my country... it was PATHETIC.... monotony ruled all the players except 5 (they where 50)..

pointystick

350th Post

Silver Customer

"Re(4):CVS2 Tourney Vids-poke poke poke" , posted Tue 12 Feb 18:35

I was really hoping to see some tournament action with Vice or Hibiki, but I didn't. Yamazaki was in there though, that's good.

ninjabastard

423th Post

Gold Customer

"At least they're not CvS 1 vids." , posted Tue 12 Feb 19:06

quote:
" I was really hoping to see some tournament action with Vice or Hibiki, but I didn't. Yamazaki was in there though, that's good.
"

Hey you're lucky this is CvS 2. I was talking to people about how was the CvS 1 matches in B5. Bascially he said,"Take both characters and put them in both corners, and have them crouch there you 45 seconds." And dude at high levels on all fighting games they become poke wars. People just will not let themselves be open for a big ass combo. And if these are the Japan matches I've seen back in Jan. Look for the one where Sagat throws a fireball threw Ryu. This was the first use of the Roll cancel. Capcom hires the winners of the Japan Nationals and uses them as beta tester. So, I think the guy knew about the bug for awhile.

Time Mage
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"Re(1):At least they're not CvS 1 vids." , posted Wed 13 Feb 09:12

quote:
" Look for the one where Sagat throws a fireball threw Ryu. This was the first use of the Roll cancel. Capcom hires the winners of the Japan Nationals and uses them as beta tester. So, I think the guy knew about the bug for awhile.
"

If you refer to the moment in which Ryu throws a hadoken avoiding Sagat's fireball, then you're wrong, that's not roll cancel. Ryu can pass under Sagat's high fireball if he throws a hadoken in that moment. Try it out.

Ah! And, although nearly everyone had Sagat and/or Blanka in their teams, there were also the awesome Girls team: They did very well! This encourages us who don't like (or don't want to use) Sagat and Blanka, and want to win without them.

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Freeter

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"CVS1....uggggghhh...." , posted Tue 12 Feb 19:21

quote:
" Capcom hires the winners of the Japan Nationals and uses them as beta tester. So, I think the guy knew about the bug for awhile.
"

So.....who were the, *ahem*, "Beta-testers" who were supposed to handle CVS1? Did the whole "tier-owning Nakoruru" fiasco just pass by them or what?

ninjabastard

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"Re(1):CVS1....uggggghhh...." , posted Tue 12 Feb 19:31

quote:
" quote:" Capcom hires the winners of the Japan Nationals and uses them as beta tester. So, I think the guy knew about the bug for awhile.
"

So.....who were the, *ahem*, "Beta-testers" who were supposed to handle CVS1? Did the whole "tier-owning Nakoruru" fiasco just pass by them or what?
"

Probably the guys who used her to win some tourney. Cocks. They're more foucused on winning by bugs than having a nice clean game.

Juke Joint Jezebel
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"arcade thoughts" , posted Tue 12 Feb 21:50

quote:
" quote:" quote:" Capcom hires the winners of the Japan Nationals and uses them as beta tester. So, I think the guy knew about the bug for awhile.
"

So.....who were the, *ahem*, "Beta-testers" who were supposed to handle CVS1? Did the whole "tier-owning Nakoruru" fiasco just pass by them or what?
"

Probably the guys who used her to win some tourney. Cocks. They're more foucused on winning by bugs than having a nice clean game.
"

it's everywhere ..... hm

this thread has depressed me. always knew deep down that the "cheap way" usually came out on top .. until this thread, i never truly realized it

when i first started going to arcades to get better in my game, i saw people doing the stupidest shit to win .... the saddest part is, it actually worked

sure, maybe there's no such thing as a "cheap" tactic. "if it works, use it." that's what my friend always said. maybe i have a little more honor

i guess .... i'll have to adjust my style of fighting according to the person i'm playing against. i won't let people like that ruin games for me

hm ..

hehe sorry if this post was offtopic. i don't feel like myself lately. i need a goal in life .. motivation .. or something

Freeter

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"thoughts" , posted Wed 13 Feb 07:20

quote:
"
sure, maybe there's no such thing as a "cheap" tactic. "if it works, use it." that's what my friend always said. maybe i have a little more honor
"

Yeah, there are. In MVC2 most people I've either seen or play against pick Cyclops and Cable and play keepaway with those stupid beam attacks.

If I gotta adjust my style, then I guess I gotta be cheap too...

YeldellGW
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Occasional Customer

"Re(1):thoughts" , posted Thu 14 Feb 17:02

quote:
" Yeah, there are. In MVC2 most people I've either seen or play against pick Cyclops and Cable and play keepaway with those stupid beam attacks.

If I gotta adjust my style, then I guess I gotta be cheap too...
"

I must be the only offensive Cyclops player in the world. I rarely use the Optic Blast outside of combos; with the possible exception of a Super Optic Blast should I jump over a move or a Mega Optic Blast against projectiles or during super combo cancels.

Outside of the Vampire series, I couldn't get away with a successful cheap if my life depended on it.

Sad to say, I see myself winning more when I use pokes as opposed to going all out offense like I use to.

Freeter

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"good thoughts" , posted Thu 14 Feb 17:36

quote:
"
I must be the only offensive Cyclops player in the world. I rarely use the Optic Blast outside of combos; with the possible exception of a Super Optic Blast should I jump over a move or a Mega Optic Blast against projectiles or during super combo cancels.
"

You have got to come to my area man. I swear I'm getting sick of seeing everyone rely on Cyclops's Optic Blast as their turtle-happy weapon of choice.

ninjabastard

427th Post

Gold Customer

"There is no cheap" , posted Wed 13 Feb 09:01

quote:
" quote:"
sure, maybe there's no such thing as a "cheap" tactic. "if it works, use it." that's what my friend always said. maybe i have a little more honor
"

Yeah, there are. In MVC2 most people I've either seen or play against pick Cyclops and Cable and play keepaway with those stupid beam attacks.

If I gotta adjust my style, then I guess I gotta be cheap too...
"

Hey I like Cable. He's not that powerful. Just use Storm or Mag. He's not good against rushdown. Cyclops isn't top tier. His anti-air assist is. Cheap is for people who lose man. In CvS 2 even against tounery people my Kyo can do real well against Sagat. Everything has a counter dude. But, still I hate bugs. I don't use Sagat,Blanka in CvS2. And in MvC2 well... that game has so much bullshit the bullshit cancels out each other. Mag inf vs Cable HVB X3.

Freeter

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"Re(1):There is no cheap" , posted Wed 13 Feb 09:19

quote:
" Hey I like Cable. He's not that powerful. Just use Storm or Mag. He's not good against rushdown. Cyclops isn't top tier. His anti-air assist is. Cheap is for people who lose man. In CvS 2 even against tounery people my Kyo can do real well against Sagat. Everything has a counter dude. But, still I hate bugs. I don't use Sagat,Blanka in CvS2. And in MvC2 well... that game has so much bullshit the bullshit cancels out each other. Mag inf vs Cable HVB X3.
"

I got nothin against Cable or Cyclops, just the cheap people who refuse to actually fight with them and decide to play keepaway all day. I don't like turtle wars, and since in MVC2 you gotta deal with the whole 3-on-3 aspect, it's easy to get irritated when the other guy gets cheesy on you.

Juan

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"Re(2):There is no cheap" , posted Wed 13 Feb 09:25

I gotta go with freeter here. You have what, 56 characters,? and people narrow their choices to 3 or 2 and with the exact same techniques?

This is not cheap, this is gay. :)

quote:
" quote:" Hey I like Cable. He's not that powerful. Just use Storm or Mag. He's not good against rushdown. Cyclops isn't top tier. His anti-air assist is. Cheap is for people who lose man. In CvS 2 even against tounery people my Kyo can do real well against Sagat. Everything has a counter dude. But, still I hate bugs. I don't use Sagat,Blanka in CvS2. And in MvC2 well... that game has so much bullshit the bullshit cancels out each other. Mag inf vs Cable HVB X3.
"

I got nothin against Cable or Cyclops, just the cheap people who refuse to actually fight with them and decide to play keepaway all day. I don't like turtle wars, and since in MVC2 you gotta deal with the whole 3-on-3 aspect, it's easy to get irritated when the other guy gets cheesy on you.
"

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Heidern98
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"Hmmmm" , posted Wed 13 Feb 11:53

quote:
"
And dude at high levels on all fighting games they become poke wars. People just will not let themselves be open for a big ass combo.
"

Well honestly Ninja, I play KOF on a highly competitive level and its far from that poke, throw, top tier bullshit I just saw. I understand your point but I truly think SNK games make an acception. I love CVS2 and all but I truly believe that no fighting games should be played like that.

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Toxico

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"Re(1):Hmmmm" , posted Wed 13 Feb 16:57

I play KOF on a highly competitive level and its far from that poke, throw, top tier bullshit I just saw. I understand your point but I truly think SNK games make an acception.

I second that; that is my same case.

I have seen many games and in even in the lamest game there are characters that can give more.... well; in a game like Samurai Showdown 4 (scrubs game) you can play with bust Basara or Shizumaru and have fun with their interesting moves and tactics...

There is a big difference between good and skilled players and someone that just wants to win and win... and that is what we saw... in my case, I am lucky; my friends do have a cult for originality and we never allow a game to fall into the "lowest level"·as some people can do * KoF 2000 Joe striker players*... and scrubs are not that tough as they think... you just need brain *usually I clean the house; and I am not that good...*

ninjabastard

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"I think KOF is the exception" , posted Wed 13 Feb 18:57

quote:
" I play KOF on a highly competitive level and its far from that poke, throw, top tier bullshit I just saw. I understand your point but I truly think SNK games make an acception.

I second that; that is my same case.

I have seen many games and in even in the lamest game there are characters that can give more.... well; in a game like Samurai Showdown 4 (scrubs game) you can play with bust Basara or Shizumaru and have fun with their interesting moves and tactics...

There is a big difference between good and skilled players and someone that just wants to win and win... and that is what we saw... in my case, I am lucky; my friends do have a cult for originality and we never allow a game to fall into the "lowest level"·as some people can do * KoF 2000 Joe striker players*... and scrubs are not that tough as they think... you just need brain *usually I clean the house; and I am not that good...*
"

I agree on KOF. It's pretty easy to get a big combo off. My friend and I were doing 60%-80% combos off each other in Golfland. But keep in mind in that in KOF you can go poke->hard p/k-> command normal-> special-> super. And the hyper low jump makes jump in's easy to start combos. Have you noticed big combos are usally started from the air? In Garou it's a little slower meaning less combos. Doesn't mean you can't pull of a big ass one with some characters easily(FUCKEN KEVIN AND HIS 100%'s!). Just that it's not as easy as KOF. MvC2 is weird. Combos up the ass but can be stopped by an assist or your own rush down combo. Or my fave Hyper viper their ass x3. I think MvC2 has got like the worst balance. Like 5-6 characters only get played. But, I can understand. Unless a character has a teleport or air dash. They're fucked. I still bring out my Jill sometimes. But my team tends to be Sent/Cable/Psylock or Doom/Iorn Man/Pyslock. And god I hate tutling. I have way to little patience to sit around and do bullshit like that. In CvS 2 I always play my Vega(Claw) rushdown.

Heidern98
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"Re(2):Hmmmm" , posted Wed 13 Feb 17:43

quote:
" I play KOF on a highly competitive level and its far from that poke, throw, top tier bullshit I just saw. I understand your point but I truly think SNK games make an acception.

I second that; that is my same case.

I have seen many games and in even in the lamest game there are characters that can give more.... well; in a game like Samurai Showdown 4 (scrubs game) you can play with bust Basara or Shizumaru and have fun with their interesting moves and tactics...

There is a big difference between good and skilled players and someone that just wants to win and win... and that is what we saw... in my case, I am lucky; my friends do have a cult for originality and we never allow a game to fall into the "lowest level"·as some people can do * KoF 2000 Joe striker players*... and scrubs are not that tough as they think... you just need brain *usually I clean the house; and I am not that good...*
"

Bust Basara is my favorite character in Samurai Shodown 4 :D

My will to live is stronger than anything! - Kenshin

Kamui
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"Re(1):Hmmmm" , posted Wed 13 Feb 13:25

You people are retarded. Seriously.

What difference does it make that people are playing good chrs? If Sagat and Blanka werent there then Yamazaki would take there place, and if Yamazaki wasnt there then Vega and M.Bison would take his place. No matter what you do, there will always be a "top tier". Not using them is only setting yourself up for a lot of losses in the name of "honor", something that deosnt make sense in the first place.

The japanese place a lot of honor in everything they do, more then most cultures...Yet they still abuse any tactic/chr they can...Why? Becuase shoving it under a carpet only makes thinga worse

"Too often we lose sight of life's simple pleasures.
Remember when someone annoys you it takes 42 muscles
in your face to frown BUT it only takes 4 muscles
to extend your arm and bitch-slap the
motherfucker upside the head."

Juan

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"Re(2):Hmmmm" , posted Wed 13 Feb 13:44

Your explanation makes sense, but i respect more someone that tries to go against the flow using different characters than some big 3133t winner that plays as the so called top tiers all the time. Thats my opinion anyway, I don't really care about tournaments anymore because i find them boring.

Oh and the retarded part was completely unnessesary :)

quote:
" You people are retarded. Seriously.

What difference does it make that people are playing good chrs? If Sagat and Blanka werent there then Yamazaki would take there place, and if Yamazaki wasnt there then Vega and M.Bison would take his place. No matter what you do, there will always be a "top tier". Not using them is only setting yourself up for a lot of losses in the name of "honor", something that deosnt make sense in the first place.

The japanese place a lot of honor in everything they do, more then most cultures...Yet they still abuse any tactic/chr they can...Why? Becuase shoving it under a carpet only makes thinga worse
"

http://www.angelfire.com/tx/carniceria *Updated mon-friday!*
Juan sucks!

Rugalbernstein

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"Re(3):Hmmmm" , posted Wed 13 Feb 17:48

I agree, Juan. Tournaments are pretty stupid, in my opinion... most people at tournaments don't play to have fun, they play to win. So they aren't the most entertaining people to watch...

Heidern98
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Rare Customer

"Re(3):Hmmmm" , posted Wed 13 Feb 16:41

quote:
" Your explanation makes sense, but i respect more someone that tries to go against the flow using different characters than some big 3133t winner that plays as the so called top tiers all the time. Thats my opinion anyway, I don't really care about tournaments anymore because i find them boring.

Oh and the retarded part was completely unnessesary :)

quote:" You people are retarded. Seriously.

What difference does it make that people are playing good chrs? If Sagat and Blanka werent there then Yamazaki would take there place, and if Yamazaki wasnt there then Vega and M.Bison would take his place. No matter what you do, there will always be a "top tier". Not using them is only setting yourself up for a lot of losses in the name of "honor", something that deosnt make sense in the first place.

The japanese place a lot of honor in everything they do, more then most cultures...Yet they still abuse any tactic/chr they can...Why? Becuase shoving it under a carpet only makes thinga worse
"
"

Relax Kamui. I quite agree with you Juan. Most people seem to do only what gets them to win the easiest way. The SAME characters and the same tactics. Look at that final Ryu vs Ryu fight. I felt like I was watching a HUMAN mirror match. Run duck jab poke poke run duck jab. It just so happened that pl.2 had a bit of an edge to him and decimated the first guy. They did the same exact thing. I feel there are plenty of other ways to get good. I had to see sagats poke at least 20 times one round. No move should dominate a fight like that. I am not saying we should see these huge spectactular combos, just more mind games and inginuity. I would like to see different things happen in the round. I feel that most SNK games are different thats all (2000 striker system is lame and ridiculous so edit that game). Listen, this is going to turn into a "this game company is better than this one" thread, I can feel it, so lets just kill it. I love Capcom games and am a big fan. Just giving my opinion thats all.

My will to live is stronger than anything! - Kenshin

pointystick

353th Post

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"Re(4):Hmmmm" , posted Wed 13 Feb 18:05

As a side note, without regulation, Shotokan karate (my style) matches turn into pokefests as well. Shotokan matches are by ippon (one hit) like kendo. However, not just any hit will result in a point. The judges determine if the blow would have caused incapacitating damage if it wasn't stopped at the last moment. Without judges making those calls (or sloppy judges as it sometimes is), the match would be dominated by people just flicking their fists in and out, trying to hit their opponent whilst simultaneously not leaving any openings.

Also, look at boxing matches. Heavy blows are rare because no one wants to leave themseves open. It's inherent to high level amateur or professional fighting of any kind, just as it is with fighting games.

Rugalbernstein

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"Re(5):Hmmmm" , posted Wed 13 Feb 18:16

That would be a very valid point, if these games intended to be realistic. I don't think people can go about throwing reppukens and the like in real life.

Iron D

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"Speak for yourself, Rugalbernstein!" , posted Thu 14 Feb 14:52

quote:
" That would be a very valid point, if these games intended to be realistic. I don't think people can go about throwing reppukens and the like in real life.
"

*Hits RugalB. with a Double Repukken*

Juan

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Red Carpet Executive Member

"Re(1):Speak for yourself, Rugalbernstein!" , posted Thu 14 Feb 14:57

*Striker Juan jumps in and deflects the fireball* *taunts: ORA!! ORA!!* *jumps out*

Because in real life we also have striker stocks!!!

quote:
" quote:" That would be a very valid point, if these games intended to be realistic. I don't think people can go about throwing reppukens and the like in real life.
"

*Hits RugalB. with a Double Repukken*
"

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Juan sucks!

ONSLAUGHT

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"Re(2):Speak for yourself, Rugalbernstein!" , posted Thu 14 Feb 15:01

quote:
" *Striker Juan jumps in and deflects the fireball* *taunts: ORA!! ORA!!* *jumps out*

Because in real life we also have striker stocks!!!
"

I demand you to bring the old good smoking dog now! Do it, or else, you will get sued!

Iron D

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"Re(2):Speak for yourself, Rugalbernstein!" , posted Thu 14 Feb 15:00

quote:
" *Striker Juan jumps in and deflects the fireball* *taunts: ORA!! ORA!!* *jumps out*

Because in real life we also have striker stocks!!!

"

And the ability to parry ANYTHING!

*Parries gunshot blasts from an AK-47, taking no damage whatsoever*

ONSLAUGHT

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"Re(6):Hmmmm" , posted Wed 13 Feb 18:22

quote:
" That would be a very valid point, if these games intended to be realistic. I don't think people can go about throwing reppukens and the like in real life.
"

Well, I think Pointystick has a really good point there...
Certainly the games are not meant to be realistic, but what he says is 100% true.
You see, in real life, as in games, you have to play safe in order to win (I'm talking about tournaments, as someone said, they are not meant to be fun, they just play to win...), and doing safe hits and turtling is the best way to do it.
In a fair game, among friends we play to have fun, and certainly we don't play like that.
I don't know if you got my point, but I think Pointystick is right.

Rugalbernstein

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Red Carpet Executive Member

"Re(7):Hmmmm" , posted Wed 13 Feb 18:30

I understand. I'm the person who said that about tournaments! ^_^
I still don't really agree, though. But I guess that's why I dislike tournaments.

Juan

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Red Carpet Executive Member

"the solution. its over." , posted Wed 13 Feb 18:37

The solution to this problem would be to make two versions of a fighting game. The regular version would have all the characters, and the "tournament edition" would have only the top tier characters (3 to 4) for the mad zkillz pEEps yo!

Or hell, just make a game like karate champ. Ryu vs Ken only. Sagat vs Blanka only.

Or if the thing is to REALLY win at all costs, just grab a lead pipe and beat the guy senseless until he can barely control the character.

quote:
" I understand. I'm the person who said that about tournaments! ^_^
I still don't really agree, though. But I guess that's why I dislike tournaments.
"

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Rugalbernstein

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"Re(1):the solution. its over." , posted Wed 13 Feb 18:55

Bwa ha ha...

Toxico

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"The true solution." , posted Wed 13 Feb 18:50:

In tournaments there should be judges and the matchs should be taped; so to insure that the person that takes more chances and do more fancy stuffs gains more points... winning should be like 15% of the total grade...

I suggested this to a store but the concept was to big for them... and the judges should be skilled players that know that is good and what it is not... maybe myself... naaaahhhh.

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Edit:

Or if the thing is to REALLY win at all costs, just grab a lead pipe and beat the guy senseless until he can barely control the character.

I tried that... to many law problems... I rater tease the guy until he focuses his eyes on my and I can get a good shot on him...

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And god I hate tutling. I have way to little patience to sit around and do bullshit like that.

Yeah; me to... that is why when you hit you have to do it HARD...

And remember that tekken is also a combo battle oriented game; now, if those juggles where not that stupidly easy...

[this message was edited by Toxico on Wed 13 Feb 19:05]

ninjabastard

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Gold Customer

"Re(1):The true solution." , posted Wed 13 Feb 19:43

quote:
" In tournaments there should be judges and the matchs should be taped; so to insure that the person that takes more chances and do more fancy stuffs gains more points... winning should be like 15% of the total grade...

I suggested this to a store but the concept was to big for them... and the judges should be skilled players that know that is good and what it is not... maybe myself... naaaahhhh.

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Edit:

Or if the thing is to REALLY win at all costs, just grab a lead pipe and beat the guy senseless until he can barely control the character.

I tried that... to many law problems... I rater tease the guy until he focuses his eyes on my and I can get a good shot on him...

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And god I hate tutling. I have way to little patience to sit around and do bullshit like that.

Yeah; me to... that is why when you hit you have to do it HARD...

And remember that tekken is also a combo battle oriented game; now, if those juggles where not that stupidly easy...
"

A fun way to win is to yell at the guy at important parts. Like this one guy was using P-groove with low life and the other guy was using Blanka with low life. The p-groove guy was ready for the ball. So, the Blanka user(Duc Do) yelled at him, then did the ball. Strewed up the p-groover's timing and he got hit and died. Pretty funny. Works with Rugal too. When you charge up the Kaiser Wave, hold it and yell WAVE! In tense matches the opponet will roll and then release.

Strider
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"Re(2):The true solution." , posted Thu 14 Feb 03:50

Duc's not really that great.. my friend Amir (zeroblue) gave him a beating with ration 4 k groove sagat (LMFAO, all the skill required to play that guy continues to dumbfound me... all the possibilities.... the fierces and low jump rhs.. way too good)

yelling shit out during a tournament is NOT banned at all at SHGL or anywhere else that I know of (it wasn't banned at b5 so why didn't i see anyone screaming their heads off during a match?) so to be honest, I'd recommend it (just to have fun, especially with a game as slow paced as cvs2 has become)

Just remember there's ways around everything. A groove Bison can usually pound the shit out of a sagat player. Give a groove a try people x.x

"It doesn't pay to betray your principles" - Strider Hiryu

ninjabastard

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"I Never mentioned Duc's skill man" , posted Thu 14 Feb 04:19:

quote:
" Duc's not really that great.. my friend Amir (zeroblue) gave him a beating with ration 4 k groove sagat (LMFAO, all the skill required to play that guy continues to dumbfound me... all the possibilities.... the fierces and low jump rhs.. way too good)

yelling shit out during a tournament is NOT banned at all at SHGL or anywhere else that I know of (it wasn't banned at b5 so why didn't i see anyone screaming their heads off during a match?) so to be honest, I'd recommend it (just to have fun, especially with a game as slow paced as cvs2 has become)

Just remember there's ways around everything. A groove Bison can usually pound the shit out of a sagat player. Give a groove a try people x.x
"

I just said Duc yelled at the p-groover. But, come to think about it. Viscant does the same a lot. Where you there last friday man? Duc got 40 wins with Cammy/Vega(claw)/Blanka R2. He got better. I used to get to his last character. Now I get killed at his 2nd. I'm getting annoyed with CvS2's balance.

[this message was edited by ninjabastard on Thu 14 Feb 06:04]

strider
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"Re(1):I Never mentioned Duc's skill man" , posted Thu 14 Feb 15:13

jay (viscant) yells because he really IS mad.. it's not his strategy to fuck people up, lol. I think it's hilarious though. cammy/vega/blanka = very good team. cvs2 barely has any balance, that's part of it's problem... it's ruled by 2 button chars.

"It doesn't pay to betray your principles" - Strider Hiryu

ninjabastard

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"Re(2):I Never mentioned Duc's skill man" , posted Thu 14 Feb 20:23

quote:
" jay (viscant) yells because he really IS mad.. it's not his strategy to fuck people up, lol. I think it's hilarious though. cammy/vega/blanka = very good team. cvs2 barely has any balance, that's part of it's problem... it's ruled by 2 button chars.
"

That's why Duc was winning. He even said he's not doing anything special. Well, I know Vinscant gets pissed a lot. But, sometimes he does yeah to screw them up. But, he yells so much it's hard to tell. Lol

Toxico

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"Re(2):The true solution." , posted Wed 13 Feb 19:58

ONSLAUGHT

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"Re(2):The true solution." , posted Wed 13 Feb 19:53

quote:
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A fun way to win is to yell at the guy at important parts. Like this one guy was using P-groove with low life and the other guy was using Blanka with low life. The p-groove guy was ready for the ball. So, the Blanka user(Duc Do) yelled at him, then did the ball. Strewed up the p-groover's timing and he got hit and died. Pretty funny. Works with Rugal too. When you charge up the Kaiser Wave, hold it and yell WAVE! In tense matches the opponet will roll and then release.
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Hahahaha!! I will apply that technique tomorrow, and I will inform you all if it worked!

pointystick

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"Re(3):The true solution." , posted Wed 13 Feb 21:03

quote:
" quote:"
A fun way to win is to yell at the guy at important parts. Like this one guy was using P-groove with low life and the other guy was using Blanka with low life. The p-groove guy was ready for the ball. So, the Blanka user(Duc Do) yelled at him, then did the ball. Strewed up the p-groover's timing and he got hit and died. Pretty funny. Works with Rugal too. When you charge up the Kaiser Wave, hold it and yell WAVE! In tense matches the opponet will roll and then release.

Hee hee, that's great! I bet it would work with Rock's level 3 Raging Storm as well. Hm, are there any other "hold" type supers that might work for?

Juke Joint Jezebel
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"omg LOL!!!" , posted Wed 13 Feb 21:00

quote:
"When you charge up the Kaiser Wave, hold it and yell WAVE! In tense matches the opponet will roll and then release."

HAHAHA i use rugal pretty often. i am so gonna try that! god, that's hillarious!

i like making people nervous in the arcade like screaming "COME HERE" when i have a full meter with geese, or threatening to step on their head when i've got yamazaki

Time Mage
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"Re(1):omg LOL!!!" , posted Thu 14 Feb 02:00

quote:
" quote:"When you charge up the Kaiser Wave, hold it and yell WAVE! In tense matches the opponet will roll and then release."

HAHAHA i use rugal pretty often. i am so gonna try that! god, that's hillarious!

i like making people nervous in the arcade like screaming "COME HERE" when i have a full meter with geese, or threatening to step on their head when i've got yamazaki
"

This also works with the Denjin Hadoken... If you messed it's execution, because you shouldn't do it a screen away from your foe...

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